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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 137
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen...
[B7L] New ISP
Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen...
[B7L] Ghost Dogs in Space
Re: [B7L] B7 and Shakespeare and Stuff
Re: [B7L] Jonathan Creek
Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen...
FW: [B7L] Orac and Star One
Re: [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long
Re: [B7L] Repeats?
["Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>] [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long
Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen...
[B7L] ["Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>] Blakes 7 social events
[B7L] a question re Xenon base
[B7L] Re: Orac and Star One
[B7L] last call for zine fiction
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:15:55 +0000
From: Murray <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen...
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Blake, worried about the possible crew casualties any time the Liberator is
in combat, equips all their seats with an ancient device called the 'seat
belt'.
Avon and Vila donate all the credits they won in Space City to charity.
The B7 crew, after confronting a terrifying looking monster, find that it
is only a disguised human who likes to play tricks on people.
Murray
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:42:31 -0400
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <inquisitioner@wish.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] New ISP
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Hi Everyone,
Well, I got my new account, and am now ready to defend the true Travis more
avidly than ever. Any mail in support of FINALACT or meant for me
personally should be sent here. I'll still get it if you send it to the
work account, but I'll only be checking that one a few times a month.
Cheers,
Jacqueline
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:05:39 +0000
From: Murray <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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>Murray wrote:
>>Blake knowing that a crew of only six is too small, due to the ever-present
>risk of death or injury from the Federation, so embarks on a proper
>recruitment drive as soon as possible.
>
>Or: Blake dumps his crew of criminals and recruits a team of real
>revolutionaries.
>
>Marian
>
You've forgotten Cally, the only real revolutionary aboard the Liberator
apart from Blake.
Murray
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:15:43 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Talking of films currently on the circuit, I went to see Jim Jarmusch's
excellent Ghost Dog yesterday, and was thinking how nicely the Forest
Whitaker character would work in the B7 universe. Then one of those
carrier pigeons rang a bell somewhere in my head...
Can anyone doubt that Jarriere was in fact a highly-skilled, deep-thinking
Samurai warrior, who used white doves to communicate with his employers?
Harriet
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:02:35 GMT
From: "Mat Shayde" <dorian17@hotmail.com>
To: steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 and Shakespeare and Stuff
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Steve Kilbane wrote:
> > Edmund and Dayna - somewhat on the homicidal maniac side sorts whose
> > blind fathers die tragically. Also, each seems to have a mellower
> > sibling.
>
>Pardon? Edmund was a trecherous little weasel with a talent for sowing
>discord and hate. Dayna's vindictive, but openly and honestly. :-)
>
>steve
I've always thought of King Lear as a very Blake's 7 play.
Blake is Lear, (mostly, I have to admit, becuase I saw Gareth as a very fine
Lear many years ago.) becuse of his idealism. (I'm sorry but splitting the
kingdom between two greedy daughters and then expecting them to look after
you for the rest of your days smacks of idealism to me! <g>)
Vila is the fool - wise and foolish at the same time.
Avon is Edmund - self interested and devious. ('Now Gods - stand up for
bastards!' could be Avon's motto.)
Servalan is one of the sisters - either Regan on Goneril, whichever one
engages in the plucking out of eyeballs.
Gan could be Gloucester - loyal to Lear/Blake for which he suffers violence
and pain.
Uumm - now I'm running out of comparisons. And my mental list of character
names (from Lear not Blake) is running low.
Dorian - "You mean you're here by choice?"
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:01:35 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <Master@allisurvey.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Jonathan Creek
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> From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
> As it happens, I do have already plotted out a Creek/X-Files cross-over,
> where JC is trying to determine what happens, to show the lack of a
> supernatural event, while Mulder is trying to prove the opposite.
>
> I've since remolded it, so that it's A.N. Other psychic supporter, rather
> than Mulder, but I still love the idea.
Jonathan Creek vs Jeff Randall would be interesting....
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 02:35:46 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
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After I suggested:
<Avon decides on a change of image and appears on the flight deck in baggy
serge trousers, a duck-egg-blue cardigan, and plimsolls.>
Joanne accused:
<Sally stands accused of at least one count of recklessly endangering
computer equipment. How do you plead?>
<blankly inoocent look> Who, me? 'Tweren't me, it was a clone (BTW, why
didn't *Vila* get cloned? That would have been wonderful to watch, as well
as several people's worst nightmare…)
Seriously, however, any *unbiased* observer (someone get FINALACT and the TN
out of here!) has got to admit that even in this, Avon would *still* the the
best-looking one on the flight deck.
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:39:20 +1000
From: Andrew Williams <AWilliams@daikin.com.au>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: FW: [B7L] Orac and Star One
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Steve wrote
>Think of the amount of control the systems on Star One had, such as weather
>control on the outer planets. These control commands must be transmitted
>between Star One and these planets somehow. Presumably planetary weather
>control would be controlled from some form of orbiting satellite systems -
>pretty visable structures - and I don't think it would have been too
>difficult to find their signals and trace them in and out of relay stations
>back to Star One. Unless there was some excellent encryption systems that
>even Orac couldn't decode.
Surely Orac could have merely traced the signal even if it couldn't decode
it (ie, taken a lateral solution along the lines of Van Eck phreaking -
don't do the hard work, do it another way).
Andrew.
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 06:35:25 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long
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Una and I wrote:
> >many novelists start without a plan; they
> > still wind up going somewhere by the end.
>
> Yes, but with a novel you only get to see the final result of that creative
> process. Unless you're studying a book, you don't get to see the first
> drafts and the bits that were hacked out: you see the final, polished
> product. With something like B7, you get to see the whole series as it's
> being put together.
Yes. A better analogy would have been a round-robin story,
with someone tying it together at the end. Or an oral story, that
you make up as you are telling it.
> But (naturally!) when I suggest that JMS's intended arc is somehow different
> from the story development you see in B7, I'm not claiming that the former
> is somehow *better*, just *different*.
Right. I was only saying that something (in this case a story arc)
need not be planned in order to exist. My only quibble is that JMS
seems to be redefining 'story arc' just as much as Muir is.
And I forgot to say before, that I enjoyed and appreciated your review.
Mistral
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:22:02 -0400
From: Meredith Dixon <dixonm@pobox.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Repeats?
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On Mon, 15 May 2000 13:56:56 EDT, you wrote:
>I rang the BBC last night - only to be told in no uncertain terms there will
>be no more repeats. :(
So they only did the first season, and stopped? That's weird.
Why would they do that?
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Date: 16 May 2000 08:01:01 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: ["Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>] [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long
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Date: Tue May 16 08:00:49 2000
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
Subject: [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long
Topics:
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From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
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Mistral wrote:
> Una and I wrote:
>
> > >many novelists start without a plan; they
> > > still wind up going somewhere by the end.
> >
> > Yes, but with a novel you only get to see the final result of that
creative
> > process. Unless you're studying a book, you don't get to see the first
> > drafts and the bits that were hacked out: you see the final, polished
> > product. With something like B7, you get to see the whole series as it's
> > being put together.
>
> Yes. A better analogy would have been a round-robin story,
> with someone tying it together at the end.
Which is pretty much what B7 is, only with cameras! :)
Una
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:52:44 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: "Lysator" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen...
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To my:
>>Or: Blake dumps his crew of criminals and recruits a team of real
>>revolutionaries.
Murray replied:
>You've forgotten Cally, the only real revolutionary aboard the Liberator
apart from Blake.
Not forgotten, simply not mentioned. :-) Blake would want to keep Cally and
possibly Gan. But imagine the shock of the others after finding themselves
abandoned on some neutral planet! (Blake's too honourable to leave them
within the Federation's grasp.) They'd team up pretty fast to find a way to
get back to Liberator. Could make an enjoyable piece of fanfiction. :-)
Marian
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Date: 16 May 2000 08:00:33 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] ["Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>] Blakes 7 social events
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From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
Subject: Blakes 7 social events
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Probably of interest to many Brits on the Lyst,
Una
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From: flimsy <flimsy@dircon.co.uk>
Sent: 13 May 2000 13:20
Subject: Blakes 7 social events
Dear all
As you know (as some of you have come along!) A group of London-based fans
of Avon in particular and Blakes 7 in general have started to arrange
regular meet-ups. For those of you who run fanzines/websites, we'd be very
greatful if you could help us to advertise future dates so that anyone who
wants to can join us. To the rest of you on the list, please just come
along!
We meet in the Blue Post pub on Newman Street on the first or second Friday
evening of every month. The upcoming dates of future meetings are as
follows:
June - 16th
July - 14th
August - 4th (plus Brighton weekend on the Saturday & Sunday, see details
below)
September - 1st
October - 6th
November - 3rd
December - 1st (Christmas meal - venue to be confirmed)
Details of how to get to the Blue Post are as follows:
>>From Tottenham Court Road tube station (on the Northern and Central Lines)
walk down Oxford Street. Newman Street turns off on the right hand side
about 200 yards down.
Around 9.30pm, we will leave the pub to go for a pizza at the Pizza Hut on
Oxford Street, which is virtually opposite the end of Newman Street. If you
go to the pub and we are not there, walk back to Oxford Street, and you will
be able to see the Pizza Hut sign. We will tell the staff showing people to
their seats that we are the Blakes 7 table, so that any latecomers can be
directed to us. If you have real trouble finding us, my mobile number is
07776 302783.
Over the weekend of August 5 & 6, some of us are also going to Brighton for
the weekend. Hotels get booked up very quickly over the summer period and
many in Brighton will only offer a minimum two night stay, but the following
hotel still has some double and single rooms available:
The Brighton Hotel
143-145 Kings Road
Brighton
West Sussex
Tel: 01904 620033
You can also book them directly through the Internet from the following
website:
http://hotelnet.co.uk/generated/sussex.htm
Rooms are £45 per person per night for single or double ensuite room for
B&B. THE HOTEL IS SITUATED ON KINGS ROAD, WHICH IS BRIGHTONS SEAFRONT ROAD,
(A259). WHEN COMING TO BRIGHTON VIA THE M23 FOLLOW THE SIGNS FOR THE A23
TURN OFF & FOLLOW THE A23 STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE SEAFRONT. AT THE ROUNDABOUT
THE PALACE PIER WILL BE FACING YOU. TURN RIGHT HEADING ALONG THE KINGS ROAD.
THE HOTEL IS APPROXIMATELY 150 YARDS AFTER THE WEST PIER.
If you want to go for more than one night, you could also try the following:
Madeira Guest House, 14 Madeira Place £15 ppn Tel: (01273) 681115
Willow Guest House, Russell Square £20 ppn Tel: (01273) 326129
Russell Guest House, 19 Russell Square £19-22 ppn Tel: (01273) 821535
Brighton Hotel, 145 Kings Road £25 ppn Tel: (01273) 820555
(on the seafront, very near the West Pier) (or 0800 018 4683)
Palace Hotel, 10/12 Grand Junction Rd £25 ppn Tel: (01273) 202035
(on the seafront, opposite Palace Pier)
Jarvis Norfolk, 149 Kings Road £42.50 ppn Tel: (01273) 738201
Belgrave Hotel, 64 Kings Road £50 ppn Tel: (01273) 321485
Please confirm all dates/venues a up to a week before the advertised by
emailing
jenni@flimsy.dircon.co.uk or tuckers@easynet.co.uk
I will also post reminders/confirmations of dates and venues on the
discussion group board at www.blakes7.com by the Monday before each event.
If you would like to be added to our London social events mailing list,
please email jenni@flimsy.co.uk.
Thanks - and hope to see you all at our events!
Best wishes
Jenni
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 02:30:17 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] a question re Xenon base
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Could anyone tell me if we actually got a look at anyone's private rooms
(especially bedrooms and no this is *not* a question for the Other List!) on
Xenon? Or any hints of what they might have been like? We got a few bare
(very very bare actually <g>) hints about the Liberator cabins, but I can't
recall any similar hints in 4th season.
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:50:54 +0100
From: Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org.uk>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Orac and Star One
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Andrew said -
> Surely Orac could have merely traced the signal even if it couldn't decode
it
But clearly the signals can't be sent by any kind of normal carrier as the
transmission would have to be instantaneous - or at least bloody fast - for
example to control space flight in real time. So we are going out of the
realm of known physics anyway. I suggest the signals get from star one to
wherever they are needed without passing through the intermediate space -
it's the only system that would work. It's no more (and possibly less)
preposterous than FTL drive after all.
Alison
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:56:31 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] last call for zine fiction
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Star Four is virtually full now. If you have any gen (ie. no explicit adult
relationships of any kind) stories that you'd like me to consider, please get
them to me in the next week or two. Anyone contributing more than three pages
(as they appear in the final zine) worth of material will get a free copy.
People contributing less than 3 pages will get a copy at a reduced price.
This will probably be my last gen anthology. Health problems make anthologies
extremely hard work to put together and edit. (novels are much simpler by
comparison and I hope to have another gen B7 novel in print later this year)
Judith
PS. I'm also accepting adult/slash stories for a separate anthology. That's
also filling now, but could still use a couple more stories.
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