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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 142
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Orac trivia
[B7L] Genzine lists, part 3 of 5-- LONG
[B7L] First Impressions: "Orac"
[B7L] Re: First Impressions "Orac"
Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #140
Re: [B7L] First Contact
RE: [B7L] "Avon, come over here...
[B7L] Blake's log entries
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:56:01 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
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Subject: [B7L] Orac trivia
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Stephen Greiff had to miss part of this episode due to an injury. You don't
notice it unless you're looking for it (when it becomes very apparant) but all
the scenes in Ensor's room were shot using a double with Stephen doing a
dubbed voice. He's alway seen through the fish tank, or from the back, or feet
only. The camera focuses on Servalan most of the time.
for what it's worth, I think Servalan initialy stopped Travis shooting Blake
because she wanted to make sure she still controlled him. Once she was
convinced he would obey her, she then gave permission.
I love Ensor's colour blindness - it's a nice piece of trivia.
I think the fish were cichlids of some kind.
Orac's key is easy to disconnect, because whoever controls the key, controls
Orac. Think of it as a security feature - it's easier to fit in your pocket
than Orac himself.
Judith
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:32:53 -0700
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B7 ZINE LIST A
ALL-B7 GEN FICTION AND POETRY ZINES
Part 3 of 3
[Pattern in Time or Patterns of Time planned but never
published; later reincarnated as PATTERN OF INFINITY; US, 1989)
PATTERN OF INFINITY (historical AUs; US, 1996)
[Perihelion #2 (almost-all-B7 issue of mm zine) see
multimedia list]
PHENOMENON (story by Judith Seaman; sequel to HERO; UK)
PHOENIX #1 (series of stories by Narrelle Harris et al.; AU,
1983.11; reprinted as webzine)
PHOENIX #2 (series of stories by Narrelle Harris et al.; AU,
1984.6; reprinted as webzine)
PHOENIX #3 (series of stories by Narrelle Harris et al.; AU,
1985?; reprinted as webzine)
[Phoenix #4 (webzine)]
THE PLAIN MAN'S GUIDE TO ALIEN INVASIONS #1 (fiction zine of
Liberation, Ltd. club; US, 1989)
THE PLAIN MAN'S GUIDE TO ALIEN INVASIONS #2 (US, 1990)
[pm (Post Malodaar) planned but never published; US, 1989]
PORT IN A STORM (novella by Lisa York; reprinted from
SPACEFALL #3; UK, 1983)
POWER #1 (stories about female characters; US, 1989)
POWER #2 (stories about female characters; US, 1990)
POWER (stories about female characters; UK, 1998.3)
POWERPLAY #1 (US, 1987)
POWERPLAY #2 (US, 1988.1)
POWERPLAY #3 (US, 1988.7)
POWERPLAY #4 (US, 1989.1)
POWERPLAY #5 (US, 1989.4)
POWERPLAY #6 (US, 1989)
POWERPLAY #7 (US, 1990?)
PRELUDE TO AN INTERVIEW (story by Linda Knights; Blake's
Seven Re-Release series; reprint from SOMETHING... UNFRIENDLY #2;
US, 1997)
[Pressure Point (Robert Franks) see under Freedom Party
Services novelette #8]
PRESSURE POINT (UK, 1999)
PRIAM'S TREASURE (story by Mary Jo Dolan; US, 1987.12)
THE PRICE OF FREEDOM #1-4 (novel by Sarah Berry; UK, 1983-4)
THE PRICE OF JUSTICE (plus "Helltide;" stories by Ermentrude
Postlethwaite-Smythe, reprinted from LIBERATOR #s 10 and 7; UK,
1998)
PRIME ATTACK (novel by Mark Lang; AU, 1985?)
[Prisoner's Dilemma (Judith Seaman) see AVON #7]
PROBABILITY SQUARE (US, 1989)
PROGRAM #1-4 (series of stories by Judith Seaman; UK, 1986)
[Project Avalon (Robert Jepson) see under Freedom Party
Services novelettes]
PURSUIT #1 (zine of T.N.T., Travis club; AU, 1983.3)
[Quest (James Ide, part 3 of 3) see under GOING HOME]
A QUESTION OF TRUST (novel by Pat Mitchell and Sue Stuart;
ST crossover; later reprinted in ENIGMA #s 1-3; UK, 1980?)
QUESTIONS OF THE PAST (assorted stories by Linda Knights;
US, 1992)
THE QUIBELL ABDUCTION (novella by Lillian Shepherd; UK,
1980.7; second edition: UK, 1999)
[The Quylaar Incident (Margaret Martin) see SLAVE #4]
RAISING HELL #1 (US, 1987.10)
RAISING HELL #2 (US, 1988)
RAISING HELL #3 (US, 1990.5)
RAISING HELL #4 (US, 1991)
RAISING HELL #5 (US, 1992)
RAISING HELL #6 (US, 1994.12)
REBEL #1 (UK, 1985)
REBEL #2 (UK, 1987)
REBEL #3 (UK, 1988)
REBEL #4 (UK, 1988)
REBEL #5 (UK, 1988)
REBEL #6 (UK, 1989)
REBEL #7 (UK, 1990.3)
REBEL #8 (UK, 1990.6)
REBEL #9 (UK, 1990.11)
REBEL #10 (UK, 1991.2)
REBEL #11 (UK, 1991.7)
REBEL #12 (UK, 1991.11)
REBEL #13 (UK, 1992.1)
REBEL #14 (UK, 1992.6)
REBEL #15 (UK, 1992.10)
REBEL #16 (UK, 1993.2)
REBEL #17 (UK)
REBEL #18 (UK, 1996.1)
REBEL DESTINIES #1 (US, 1994.1)
REBEL DESTINIES #2 (also available as disk zine; US, 1995)
RECLAIMED (novel by Susan Rotellini; part 1 of 3; US,
1988.7)
RED LIPSTICK (story by Diane Rabuano; US, 1988)
[Redemption (David Metcalfe) see under Freedom Party
Services novellette #2]
REFLECTIONS IN A SHATTERED GLASS (novella by Joe Nazzaro;
US, 1989)
RENAISSANCE (two novellas by Diane L. Holland; UK, 1999)
RESOURCES (story by Aino Jarvi; US, 1989)
[Re-Take One and Re-Take Two see SUE CHADWICK'S RE-TAKE
ONE AND RE-TAKE TWO COMPETITIONS]
RETURN OF THE SEVEN #1 (US, 1985.5)
RETURN OF THE SEVEN #2 (US, 1987.5)
RETURN OF THE SEVEN #3 (US, 1989.3)
RETURN OF THE SEVEN #4 (US, 1991)
REVELATIONS (story by Leigh Arnold; New Horizons series,
part 2; US)
REVENGE OF THE RABBLE (US, 1989.5)
[Revisionist History (Deb Walsh and Mary Bloemker) see
AVON'S 8 COLLECTED, Vol. 1]
RITES OF PASSAGE (AU, 1999)
THE ROAD TO HELL (assorted stories by Suzan Lovett,
reprinted from various zines; UK, 1996)
ROADS NOT TAKEN (US, 1991)
ROOM TO BREATHE (Anonymous)
[Rumours of Death (Stephanie Lucas) see under Freedom Party
Services novelette #24]
SANCTION ("Keith Black" bootleg of story actually by Linda
Webb-Taylor, from SPACEFALL #5, also in BEST OF SPACEFALL #1; US,
1986?)
[Sand (Dominic Anderson) see under Freedom Party Services
novelette #3]
[Sarcophagus (Dominic Anderson see under Freedom Party
Services novelette #9]
SATELLITE OF SIN (S.O.S.) (UK, 1984)
[Scorpio-5 Souvenir Zine (mm, but mostly B7) see Multimedia
list]
SCORPION (story by Judith Seaman; sequel to stories in THE
WAY BACK #1; UK, ?)
[Seas of God (Sharon Eckman) see THE WEB #3]
[Season in Hell (Deb Walsh and Mary Bloemker) see AVON'S 8
COLLECTED, Vol. 2]
A SECOND BEGINNING (story by Helen Parkinson; UK, 1988.5)
SECOND CHANCE (novella by Dolores J. Whitbread; UK, 1982)
SECOND CHANCE (story by Barbara Johnson; US, 1988)
[Seek-Locate-Destroy (Garry Cullen) see under Freedom Party
Services novelette #18]
SELFSEARCH #1-2 (novella by Margaret Scroggs; sequel to
FIGHTBACK; part 2 of 6; UK, 1987)
SERRATED SEVEN (US, 1993)
SERIES 5: TRILOGY ONE (series of stories by Patrick Chapman,
David Metcalf, and Kevin Taylor; UK, 1987)
SERIES 5: TRILOGY TWO (series of stories; UK, 1988)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #1 (US, 1988.4)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #2 (US, 1989.1)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #3 (US, 1990.1)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #4 (US, 1990.7)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #5 (US, 1991.5)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #6 (US, 1992.5)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #7 (US, 1993.5)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #8 (US, 1994.5)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #9 (US, 1995.5)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #10 (US, 1996.5)
THE SEVEN LIVE ON #11 (US, 1998.5)
SEVENTH SECTOR #1: Velvet and Thorns (novella by Adam
Jenson; NZ, 1985)
SEVENTH SECTOR #2: Underworld (novella by Ross Smith and
Kathy Hanson, plus an extra story by Bonnie Andrews; NZ, 1985)
SEVENTH SECTOR #3: Jabberwocky 1: Link-up (novel by Sheila
Paulson; NZ, ?; reprinted in JABBERWOCKY COLLECTED and
JABBERWOCKY, Vol. 1)
SHADES OF GREY (novella by C. K. Smith; US, 1990?)
[Shadow (David Tulley) see under Frontier Worlds Special
Publications]
SHADOW #1-5 (newsletter with fiction; US, 1987-1989)
SHADOW ONE (UK, 1985.2)
SHADOW TWO (UK, 1986.4)
SHADOW AT THE EDGE (novel by Ann Wortham & Leah Rosenthal;
sequel to LAST STAND AT THE EDGE OF THE WORLD; US, 1995)
SHADOW: IMAGININGS #1 (US, 1988)
SHADOW: IMAGININGS #2 (US, 1989)
SHADOWPLAY (novel by Susan Matthews; sequel to MASCARADA;
part 3 of 3; US, 1988)
SHADOWS & SURVIVORS (story by Julie Talbott; 1992)
SHAMAN (linked stories by Joe Nazzaro; US, 1990)
SLAVE #1 (UK, 1982.1)
SLAVE #2 (UK, 1982.4)
SLAVE #3 (UK, 1982.8)
SLAVE #4: The Quylaar Incident (novella by Margaret Martin;
UK, 1982.8)
SLAVE #5 (UK, 1982.12)
SLAVE #6 (UK, 1983.5)
SLAVE #7 (UK, 1983.11)
SLAVE #8: The Vantala Affair (novella by Margaret Martin,
later reprinted as a standalone, plus an extra story by Debra
Board; UK, 1985.2)
S.L.Y.G.O. (novella by J. T. Johnson; NZ, 1999)
SOME DREAMS ARE WORTH HAVING (filks by Judith Proctor;
lyrics to filk tape of same name; UK, 1998.3)
SOMETHING...UNFRIENDLY #1 (US, 1988.5)
SOMETHING...UNFRIENDLY #2 (US, 1990)
SON OF SPACE ODDITY (US, 1988.8)
SONGS OF THE SEVEN (filks; no connection to Linda Short filk
tape of same name; US, 1988.7)
[A Sort of Homecoming; sequel to the New Horizons series;
planned but never published; US, 1989]
[S.O.S. see SATELLITE OF SIN]
SOUTHERN SEVEN #1 (US, 1986.11; reprint lacks Hellhound I,
which was reprinted separately)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #2 (US, 1987.10; reprint lacks Hellhound II,
which was reprinted separately)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #3 (US, 1988.8)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #4 (US, 1988.12)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #5 (in 2 vols.; US, 1989.7)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #6 (US, 1991.10)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #7 (US, 1992.4)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #8 (US, 1994.5)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #9 (US, 1994.5)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #10 (US, 1995.5)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #11 (US, 1998.5)
SOUTHERN SEVEN #12 (US, 1998.5)
SPACE DEBRIS #1 (fiction zine of Flotilla 13 club; US, 1989)
SPACE DEBRIS #2 (US, 1990)
[Space Fall (Fran Ward?) see under Freedom Party Services
novelettes]
SPACE ODDITY (US, 1987.10)
[SPACE ODDITY #2 see SON OF SPACE ODDITY]
SPACEFALL #1 (UK, 1978)
SPACEFALL #2 (UK, 1978)
SPACEFALL #3: Port in a Storm (Lisa York; UK, 1978)
SPACEFALL #4 (UK, 1978)
SPACEFALL #5 (UK, 1978?)
SPACEFALL #6 (UK, 1979?)
SPACEFALL #7 (UK, 1979?)
SPACEFALL #8 (UK, 1979?)
SPACEFALL #6/7/8 BUMPER ISSUE (reprint?; UK, 1979)
SPACEFALL #9 (UK, 1979)
SPACEFALL #10 (UK, 1979)
SPACEFALL #11 (UK, 1980)
SPACEFALL #12 (UK, 1981)
SPACEFALL #13 (UK, 1981)
SPIRITS IN THE MATERIAL WORLD (novella by Shawn Wigton;
sequel to LIVE TO TELL; part 3 of ?; US, 1991)
STADLER LINK (UK, 1998)
['Stag' Nation's Flake's Seven Annual 1982 and 1983 see
FLAKE'S SEVEN #1 and #2]
STANDARD BY SEVEN #1 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #2 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #3 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #4 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #5 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #6 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #7 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #8 (UK, 1980?)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #9 (UK, 1981.3)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #10 (UK, 1981.8)
STANDARD BY SEVEN #11 (UK, 1982.4)
STANDARD BY SEVEN SPECIAL #1: Deadly Night Shades (story by
Gillian Marsden; UK, 1983; reprinted in MILLENIUM SPECIAL)
STANDARD BY SEVEN: THE EARLY YEARS I (UK, 1987.10)
STANDARD BY SEVEN: THE EARLY YEARS II (UK, 1995)
STANDARD BY SEVEN: THE EARLY YEARS III (UK, 1996)
STANDARD BY SEVEN: THE EARLY YEARS IV (UK, 1997)
STANDARD BY SEVERAL #1 (fiction zine of Blake's Several
club; US, 1987.7)
STANDARD BY SEVERAL #2 (US, 1988.10)
STANDARD BY SEVERAL #3 (US, 1990.6)
STANDARD BY SEVERAL #4 (US, 1993.3)
[Star One (Robert Carter) see under Dark Tower
novelizations]
STAR ONE (UK, 1993?)
STAR TWO (UK, 1994)
STAR THREE (UK, 1996)
THE STAR CHANGE and Other Stories (assorted stories by Moira
Dahlberg; AU, 1982)
THE STAR CHANGE and Other Stories, Part Two (aka STAR CHANGE
ADDITIONS; assorted stories by Moira Dahlberg; AU, 1984)
[Stardrive (Patrick Chapman) see under Freedom Party
Services novelette #6]
STILL LIFE
STRANGERS AMONG US (novella by Ann Harding and Patricia A.
Thomas; B7/Classic Trek crossover; UK, 1978)
[Struggle to Live (Kevin Taylor) see under Freedom Party
Services novelette #4]
SUE CHADWICK'S RE-TAKE ONE AND RE-TAKE TWO COMPETITIONS
(Avon Club competition stories; UK, 1997)
[The Sum of the Parts (Susan Barrett) see AVON #10]
[Sundowner trilogy (Roberta Stuemke) see ISLANDS, CIRCLES,
WAVES]
SURPRISES (story by Linda Knights; Blake's Seven Re-Release
series; edited reprint; US, 1997?)
[Survival (Margaret Martin) see ZYLANORR II: Survival]
SURVIVOR (novella by Leigh Arnold; New Horizons series, part
1; US)
TALES FROM NEW WALES (stories by Sue Bursztynski and Robert
Jan; AU, 1986)
TALES FROM THE REBEL'S RETURN (UK, 1981?)
TANGENT (story by Mary Moulden; sequel to J. B. Priestley
play "I Have Been Here Before;" UK, 1985)
TELEPORT #1 (AU, 1980)
TELEPORT #2 (AU, 1982)
TELEPORT RANGE (UK, 1989?)
THE TENTS OF GOTH (US, 1997)
[Terminal (Brian Devlin) see under Dark Tower
novelizations]
TERMINAL ONE #1 (UK, 1982?)
TERMINAL ONE #2 (UK, 1983?)
THEY WERE ONLY STUNNED (all GP or death stories; UK, 1982.8)
THOMAS WOLFE WAS RIGHT (novel by Monica Mitchell; AU,
1981.10)
THOSE WHO FAVOR FIRE (all A-B stories; US, 1989)
THOSE WHO TRUST (story by Angela Churm; UK, early 1980s?)
THREADS THROUGH INFINITY (US, 1991)
TIME DISTORT #1 (mm, but mostly B7; US, 1983?)
TIME DISTORT #2 (US, 1983?)
[Time Lord (tetralogy by Brenda Callagher) see AIRWAVES
BLAKE'S SEVEN SPECIAL #2]
TIME REMEMBERED (novel by Sue Collins; B7/DW crossover; US,
1990)
[Timesquad (Robert Cook) see Freedom Party Services
novelette #12]
[To Lose, To Win (Patrick Chapman) see Freedom Party
Services novellette #10]
THE TOTALLY IMAGINARY CHEESEBOARD (novella by Jean Airey and
Laurie Haldeman; US, 1988; reprint: UK, 1995)
A TOUCH OF THE IRISH (Chronicles #16.5, the Special Issue;
play by Narrelle Harris and Shayne McCormack; AU, 1984.10)
[Traitor (Simon Gardener) see Freedom Party Services
novelette #23]
[Transzendence planned but never published; US, 1991]
[Ultraworld (Kenneth Nelson) see Freedom Party Services
novelette #14]
[Uncertain Alliances (series of stories by Adrian Morgan and
Brendan O'Cullane) planned but never published; US, 1989]
UNDERCURRENTS (novel by James Ide; part 1 of a projected 3;
US, 1991)
[Underworld (Ross Smith and Kathy Hanson) see SEVENTH
SECTOR #2]
THE USES OF ADVERSITY (novella by Sheila Paulson; US, 1991)
THE VANTALA AFFAIR (novella by Margaret Martin; reprinted
from SLAVE #8; UK, 1994.10)
[Velvet and Thorns (Adam Jenson) see SEVENTH SECTOR #1]
VEM QUEST (round robin story by various authors; UK,
1999.1)
VILACON '84 (convention contest-winning stories; UK, 1984)
VILAWORLD (club newsletter; includes short fiction; UK)
VISIONS IN BLUE (novella by Shawn Wigton; sequel to SPIRITS
IN THE MATERIAL WORLD; part 4 of ?; US)
[Voice of Oracle #s 1-7 (club zine; mm, but mostly B7) see
multimedia list]
VOICES FROM THE PAST (by Gambit [musical group]; lyrics to
filk tape of same name; AU)
VOICES FROM THE PRESENT #1 (US, 1988.9)
VOICES FROM THE PRESENT #2 (US, 1989.6)
VOICES FROM THE PRESENT #3 (US, 1991?)
THE VOID AFLAME, LIKE A BONFIRE (novella by Irene Stubbs;
US, 1989)
WALLOW PLUS #1 (humor; UK, 1980)
WALLOW PLUS #2 (UK, 1981?)
WALLOWZINE (UK, 1979?)
[Warlord (David Metcalfe) see Freedom Party Services
novelette #7]
WAVES (Roberta Stuemke; sequel to CIRCLES; Sundowner
trilogy, part 3; US, 1995)
WAVES (aka Waves upon a Mirrored Surface, Waves upon a
Reflected Surface; story by Linda Knights; Blake's Seven Re-
Release series; edited reprint; US, 1997)
[The Way Back (Patrick Chapman) see Freedom Party Services
novelette #25]
THE WAY BACK (US/UK, 1995)
THE WAY BACK #1 (mostly Judith Seaman stories; UK, 1983)
[The Way It Was (Caroline Robertson) see AVON #5]
THE WAY TO REBELLION, #1-6 (series of novellas by Ros
Williams; UK, 1989-90)
THE WAY TO REBELLION-- A PREQUEL: BLAKE (Ros Williams; UK,
1991)
[The Web (Daniel Denmen) see Freedom Party Services
novelette #13]
THE WEB #1 (UK, 1986)
THE WEB #2 (UK, 1993)
THE WEB #3: Seas of God (Sharon Eckman; DS9 crossover; UK,
1995)
WEB OF INTERACTION (story by Judith Seaman; sequel to J. B.
Priestley play "I Have Been Here Before;" UK, 1985)
["What-If" Competition see AVON'S QUANTUM RE-WRITTEN
HISTORY OF THE WORLD: "WHAT-IF" COMPETITION]
WHAT ON EARTH HAPPENED TO YOU? (post-Star One Blake stories;
US, 1997)
WHOMSOEVER HOLDS THIS SWORD (Arthurian-related stories; US,
1992)
THE WORLD TURNED UPSIDE DOWN (novel by Sandy Hall, in 2
vols.; US)
XENON #1 (fiction zine of Aftermath club; AU, 1983.2)
XENON #2 (AU, 1983.12)
XENON #3 (AU, 1984.10)
XENON #4 (AU, 1987.7)
XENON #5: Counterpoint (novel by Venessa Kelly; AU, 1987.7)
XENON #6 (AU, 1988.10)
YESTERDAY: MEMORIES OF TODAY (novella by Linda Knights;
Blake's Seven Re-Release series; edited reprint from GAMBIT #2;
US, 1997)
YOKO SCRUM #1-3 and The Reprint (newsletter with fiction;
UK, 1985)
ZEN & THE ART OF REBELLION #1 (US, 1991)
ZEN & THE ART OF REBELLION #2 (US, 1992)
ZEN & THE ART OF REBELLION #3 (US, 1994)
THE ZYLANORR (novella by Margaret Martin; reprinted from
SLAVE #s 1-2; UK, 1990.3)
ZYLANORR II: Survival (novel by Margaret Martin; UK,
1990.3)
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:34:13 +0000
From: Murray <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac"
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Ariana,
Your review of 'Orac' was very good as usual, and I'm sorry that you won't
be able to continue with them for the present, thanks to the BBC.
>Aside from that, I did like the continuity from the previous episode, with
>all those who had been to Cephlon suffering from radiation sickness. It gave
>an added urgency to Blake and Cally's quest on Aristo. I also enjoyed Ensor
>pottering around his little home, and Travis and Servalan having a difficult
>time in the caves. It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it a lot.
The continuity was good, and 'Deliverance' and 'Orac' could have been
labeled a two-part episode as a result.
>Character stuff:
>================
>Not a tremendous deal of character stuff to comment on. Nice bit of
>squabbling when Jenna and Gan join Avon in the teleport room; I think Avon
>was rather hoping to suffer on his own. Their different reactions to the
>illness were interesting -- with Avon and Vila wanting privacy (though
>possibly for different reasons), while Jenna and Gan seemed more keen on
>company. It was nice to see Cally and Blake making an efficient team again,
>too.
Yes, I loved their different approaches to the possibility of death,
particularly Avon's comment on Vila's attitude that it showed the latter
having 'distinct signs of intelligence'. This comment was made, of course,
without Vila being present.<g>
>Vila doesn't get much to do in this episode, but he does get the best
>laughs; first when he bangs his head on the door as he leaves the recreation
>room (or whatever it is), and then when he's teleported down into a puddle
>with only one boot on. Plus he gets to wear a rather nice red shirt while
>he's relaxing. ;)
Of course, if the oceans were highly acidic, he wouldn't have much of a
foot left. This is a big plot hole in the episode that has often been
commented on.
>Servalan being so shaken by the phibian's attack was a nice touch, IMHO.
>After showing what a heartless cow she can be in the comfort of her own
>office last time, here we see that she isn't always so assured when in the
>field. I think it adds a teensy bit of variety and interest to the
>character. Travis too is beginning to grow on me; Stephen Greif is a good
>actor. Pity he got replaced by the later-to-be Ted Hills from EastEnders.
This is the first and only time when we see Servalan so shaken.
>I liked Ensor; he was a nice grumpy old man. I thought the actor did a lot
>better than his 'son' in last week's episode (but then that wasn't
>difficult). Orac sounds like quite a character, btw. I hope I get an
>opportunity to see more of it in the rest of the series some day.
Orac is a nice character; the problem is that he was created as far too
powerful a computer, which should have enabled Blake to destroy the
Federation with ease.
>Orac's key has the flimsiest connection to his main unit. Way too easy to
>disconnect; I wonder if that was ever a plot point in any future episodes.
His key is a plot point in some future episodes, but I won't say how.<g>
Murray
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:57:04 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: First Impressions "Orac"
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The bit that always gets me about this episode is Servalan's dress, how
it manages to stay spotless despite crawling through dank tunnels, being
attacked by that slug-lizard thing, crawling through a rockfall and
nearly getting blown up. They sure know how to make stay-clean material
in the future.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson
Redemption: The Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 convention
23-25 February 2001, Ashford, Kent
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:06:56 EDT
From: RCalla6725@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #140
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In a message dated 22/05/00 01:59:12 GMT Daylight Time, avona@jps.net writes:
<< Sorry, I meant 1-word title epsiode, I left out the 'word'. I KNOW he
was in Timelash. I know about Timelash. Talking to me about isn't
restoring a trace of my memory. I have a vague notion of somewhat
toga-like costumes, but that might come from imagining from a
description. I either didn't see it, but read enough about it to know
the general stuff (name of villian, etc.) Or I saw it and promptly
forgot all details. That's all I was trying to say.
>>
All this reminds me, for a reminder of the story, there's plenty of pics at
the DW Image Archive. The URL for sixth Doctor stories is:
http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/story-6.htm
Pics of Paul are at : http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/story/st--6y06.jpg
and http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/story/st--6y05.jpg
While the Two Doctors is also on there, there are unfortunately no shots of
Jacqueline Pearce currently on there. I guess
http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/story-4.htm would probably have The Sunmakers
with Michael Keating on there too.
This reminds me, actually, I once came across - entirely by accident I
promise - a DW Naughty Image archive, with pics of Jacqueline on there from a
play she'd been in. Tut tut and all that.
In a message dated 22/05/00 04:06:49 GMT Daylight Time, gadam@shore.net
writes:
<< He was, IMHO, a good writer. Perhaps limiting him to be the Only the author
for the first 13 episodes was a good thing... you see his flexibility.... >>
Sorry, Gary, but was that supposed to be in jest? Terry Nation's flexibility?
<< Truth be told, Servelan (I believe IMO) was trying to justify her anger at
being outwitted. Of course IF Travis Had killed Blake then the TV series
would have a very short life span. Perhaps more akin to 'Blake' for the end
of Season 1, but still.... I think she was trying to 'pass the buck' so he
would get the sh** kicked out of *Him* for being a buffoon and Servelan
could quietly grin and slip out the side entrance. [Exit Cheap Set Left] >>
Fair enough, it would have cut short the series. But the point is, you
shouldn't be able to see the joins in writing like that. It's like Doctor
Who. I mean, you know, barring the odd regeneration, that he always solves
the mystery and gets to live past each cliffhanger. But the construct of his
escape shouldn't be so fundamentally inescapable to make the fabric of the
series unbelievable. I think the scene should have been rewritten, at least
so that Avon blasted Travis before Servelan had to do the "wait-" bit. It's
like in the Pertwee era of Doctor Who, whenever he meets the Master, you
always get "I shall kill you, Doctor... but for now..."
<< As I recall it WAS a cheap suit and Vere Lorrimer (the director) decided to
use shadows and jump cuts to hide the fact it was SO awful no one would find
it scary. >> Yeah, I was being sarcastic when I said that bit...
<< In addendum: It was standard policy of the Beeb at the time to shoot
location work on film and studio stuff on video tape. (Video cameras were
very mucho expensive in those days and weren't light. Doctor Who did the
same thing. Case in point watch 'The Pirate Planet' from the same era ('78)
and you'll see that the exteriors are all on film and the interiors are
videotape. Since the invention of the portable Betacam SP camera (Thanks
Ikegami!) all of it is now done on video. Alas, those were the days you Had
to hire a Film and a Videotape Editor :) No wonder there was never a budget
for the monsters! :) >> I find exterior/interiors acceptable, you have to
make allowances for those things. But having the same corridor shot in both
mediums is stretching the point IMO.
<< Please do, many of them are very worth it. 'Pressure Point', 'Star One' and
'Blake' are faves of mine and they are all 2nd, and beyond. In particular
(and depressingly) 'Blake' is among my favorites because of the lovely
scenery and great plotting. It also does them in... but I'll leave you to
see How... I also enjoyed 'Trial', 'Terminal' and though this is moot for
you, 'The Way Back' since you've seen that all ready. >> I did think after
The Way Back (which I thought was a classic episode of television) and the
superior Space Fall the series slid a little... obviously it was held
together by the rapport of the cast, but I think I would love to see Chris
Boucher B7... I missed the political elements that were present in the first
episode then seemed to vanish thereafter...
<< I think they have a problem with executing Java scripts... it happens on
someone else's Geocities web site I went to (directly I might add) and it
was telling me there were 'syntax errors' every time I reloaded a page...
I'm guessing a server problem? Write them and kindly ask what in tarnation
is going on :) >> I'll do that, thanks. :)
Richard
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:45:43 EDT
From: RCalla6725@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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In a message dated 22/05/00 00:01:12 GMT Daylight Time,
j_macqueen@hotmail.com writes:
<< >From: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>
> Every whovian on Earth realizes that Timelash is the worst
>episode of Dr. Who ever made.
Is that so?
Regards
Joanne
(just strange enough to like it a lot) >> Must admit, while I don't think
it's wonderful, I never understood why it's supposed to be SO bad... I can
think of at least half a dozen stories that are worse, including two of
Colin's own, Mindwarp and the Twin Dilemma.
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:38:27 -0500
From: "Brian T Bolding" <eskimocha@netzero.net>
To: "Gary" <gadam@shore.net>
Cc: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] "Avon, come over here...
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how do i unsubscribe from this list?
thanks,
bri
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary [mailto:gadam@shore.net]
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:04 PM
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] "Avon, come over here...
>
>
> >(Orac), wasn't it? Who says Terry Nation isn't a good writer?
> >
>
> He was, IMHO, a good writer. Perhaps limiting him to be the Only
> the author
> for the first 13 episodes was a good thing... you see his flexibility....
>
> >Actually, for an "end of season" episode I thought this week's was a bit
> off,
> >and the exposition problem kept coming up all the way through, including:
> >
> >The crew having their flight deck conversation conviently playing on the
> >intercom so Gan could hear it in the sickbay. What, couldn't we assume
> they'd
> >just TOLD him off-screen or something? Maybe he could even have
> been there
> at
> >the time to hear them say it?
> >
> I figured it was a bit of aside that he knew but they were
> 'voicing' a plot
> element. In other words so you (or me or anybody else) could hear what is
> going on....
>
> >Worst bit though was the end. "Wait, Travis, don't kill Blake yet - allow
> me
> >to explain the plot to him first. Right, now you can kill him". And I
> >couldn't believe Servelan's "you're in big trouble for this, Travis". It
> was
> >her that told him to wait!!! He could have killed Blake ten times over if
> it
> >wasn't for the silly moo sticking her oar in.
> >
> Truth be told, Servelan (I believe IMO) was trying to justify her anger at
> being outwitted. Of course IF Travis Had killed Blake then the TV series
> would have a very short life span. Perhaps more akin to 'Blake'
> for the end
> of Season 1, but still.... I think she was trying to 'pass the buck' so he
> would get the sh** kicked out of *Him* for being a buffoon and Servelan
> could quietly grin and slip out the side entrance. [Exit Cheap Set Left]
>
> >Weirdest bit had to be the part where Blake and Travis first
> bump into each
> >other along a corridor - Travis' half of the corridor on film, Blake's on
> >video. And that lizard monster? They must have spent a fortune on that,
> they
> >could have saved money by just having a man in a cheap rubber suit to do
> it.
> >
> As I recall it WAS a cheap suit and Vere Lorrimer (the director)
> decided to
> use shadows and jump cuts to hide the fact it was SO awful no one
> would find
> it scary. As it was, he did a fair brill job (IMHO) of hiding
> what an awful
> costume the Phibians were. Plus the Phibs weren't the focus, and Orac
> Was....
> In addendum: It was standard policy of the Beeb at the time to shoot
> location work on film and studio stuff on video tape. (Video cameras were
> very mucho expensive in those days and weren't light. Doctor Who did the
> same thing. Case in point watch 'The Pirate Planet' from the same
> era ('78)
> and you'll see that the exteriors are all on film and the interiors are
> videotape. Since the invention of the portable Betacam SP camera (Thanks
> Ikegami!) all of it is now done on video. Alas, those were the
> days you Had
> to hire a Film and a Videotape Editor :) No wonder there was
> never a budget
> for the monsters! :)
> >
> >But you know, I'll miss Blake's 7, with it's brand of state-of-the-art
> >sophisticated special effects and complete absense of boom mike shadows.
> >Sarcasm aside I'm sad that the BBC are stopping the repeats,
> I've only just
> >gotten into the series and am thinking about buying the tapes so
> I can see
> >what I'm missing in the next three seasons. A great shame they won't
>
> Please do, many of them are very worth it. 'Pressure Point',
> 'Star One' and
> 'Blake' are faves of mine and they are all 2nd, and beyond. In particular
> (and depressingly) 'Blake' is among my favorites because of the lovely
> scenery and great plotting. It also does them in... but I'll leave you to
> see How... I also enjoyed 'Trial', 'Terminal' and though this is moot for
> you, 'The Way Back' since you've seen that all ready.
>
> -Gary
> PS. A question for anyone out there with superior HTML knowledge - if I've
> >bought a domain name to divert to a site I have on Geocities, why does it
> >throw up script errors when it's fine when viewed under the
> Geocities URL?
> >And is there any way to fix the problem?
> >
> I think they have a problem with executing Java scripts... it happens on
> someone else's Geocities web site I went to (directly I might add) and it
> was telling me there were 'syntax errors' every time I reloaded a page...
> I'm guessing a server problem? Write them and kindly ask what in tarnation
> is going on :)
>
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:05:27 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Blake's log entries
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Sally Manton wrote:
> as far as I can recall, this was the first and last time Blake
made a log entry at all, wasn't it?
Yes. Actually, I would have expected it to be Zen's task to keep the log.
("18.16: The One Called Blake has set course for Anaconda Major. 18.18: The
One Called Avon demands to know what The One Called Blake has planned.
18.19: The One Called Vila complains about a headache...")
<snipped wonderful stuff that had me ROFL>
>Maybe Jenna - as the only experienced space traveller - told him that it
was part of the (self-proclaimed) captain's duties, and he's insisting that
Avon watch them simply because he thinks *someone* ought to have to suffer
along with him ...
Or maybe they did it in turns (keep the log, I mean :-) ).
Marian
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