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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 173
Today's Topics:
RE: [B7L] crew
Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #168
Re: [B7L] Recruitment
Re: [B7L] Re: Animals (Was Josette Simon)
[B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #172
[B7L] Travii-Traves
Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
Re: [B7L] Recruitment
Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
Re: [B7L] Re: Travis
Re [B7L] crew
Re: [B7L] shields up
Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
Re: [B7L] Interesting food (not jelly or Jell-O)
[B7L] Sighting....
Re: [B7L] Re: Jell-O/ jelly rebellion
[B7L] Tynus aboard?
[B7L] Re: crew additions
[B7L] Re: If we'd been there
Re: [B7L]Sarcophagus (was RoD (was Animals))
Re: [B7L]lost episodes: was: Animals
Re: [B7L] Re: If we'd been there
Re: [B7L]Sarcophagus (was RoD (was Animals))
Re: [B7L] Tynus aboard?
Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #172
Re: [B7L] Re: If we'd been there
Re: [B7L] Re: Lurena (was blakes7-d Digest V00 #172)
Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
Re: [B7L] Animals
Valium episodes (was Re: [B7L] Animals)
Re: [B7L] Re: If we'd been there
Re: [B7L] Animals
[B7L] Back from the conference
[B7L] Re: Crew, Models and Liaisons (OK, it's mostly about
Jarriere)
[B7L] Marion McChesney funeral info
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:16:59 +-100
From: Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinternet.com>
To: "'B7 Lysator'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] crew
Message-ID: <01BFDD3F.6395C0E0@host62-7-1-196.btinternet.com>
>Of all the people whom they met on their travels, who would you most >like
to have joined the crew?
>I'd nominate Levett from Mission to Destiny - brains and cool and not
>fazed by Avon.
Levett or Tyce - I think they're fantastic characters. They both had a bite
to them. Much as I love Sarkoff, I don't think he would have added much to
crew dynamics.
Kasabi was also a great character I'd like to have seen more of - this is
how Cally should have been more often.
Louise
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:14:56 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, "Jacqueline Thijsen" <inquisitioner@wish.net>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #168
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> by making them choose between the two Travii.
Traves (assuming the noun is declined as third-gender regular, eg: canis,
canes [that's "dog" for those of you who didn't have to take Latin at
school])
Fiona, Fionae
Fiona Moore
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:17:27 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>, "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Recruitment
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From: Marian de Haan <maya@multiweb.nl>
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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Recruitment
> can be excused for not bothering. :-) Besides, Avon, Jenna and Vila would
> not be pleased with the addition of some dedicated, selfless freedom
> fighters who would encourage Blake in his dangerous missions. I can see
> those three working together to prevent any candidate from joining them.
Plus they'd have to stop calling it "Blake's 7" and start using some sort of
random app: "Blake's {x+y-z-1} where X is number of original crewmembers, Y
is the number of selfless freedom fighters encountered, Z is the number of
individuals with four lines per episode whom the director doesn't like..."
perhaps?
Fiona
Fiona Moore
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html
Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:02:36 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: "Wendy S. Penberriss" <penberriss@yahoo.com>,
"Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>, "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Animals (Was Josette Simon)
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From: Wendy S. Penberriss <penberriss@yahoo.com>
To: Ellynne G. <rilliara@juno.com>; <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Animals (Was Josette Simon)
>
> IIRC in the ending Justin wasn't supposed to die and
> Cally was supposed to go off with him-- which seems a
> bit more Doctor Who than Blake's 7 to me
Ah, but there would always have to be a B7 twist to it... they might well
have wound up on opposite sides of an Animal rights campaign, or he'd have
gotten shot during a Telepaths' Lib meeting. Perhaps she'd have cropped up
in "Blake" as a disillusioned vegetarian bounty hunter, starving to death
because she doesn't fancy eating squirrels....
In B7, no one gets a happy ending. Especially not in Series 4.
Fiona
Fiona Moore
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html
Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:36:27 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #172
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> Lurena from Star One. [Yes, you may groan but I like the character :-)]
> She must be a skilled technician to be of use on Star One and she doesn't
> scream when she finds those bodies.
Actually, Marian, I'd agree. She also was aware soemthing was terribly
wrong on Star One, and ready to confront the others to find out what was
goig on.
It would be interesting to have someone who has been a Federation
Loyalist in a position on the Liberator. The others would probably make
it clear to her that having been on Star One might put her in a very
awkward position if she were to go back to the Federation. Avon and Vila
would still make sure she never got close to the communicator by
herself, until such time as they were really convinced of her loyalty,
and they aren't easy to convince...
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:25:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tegan Donnelly <tegan@offcenter.org>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Travii-Traves
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> > by making them choose between the two Travii.
> Traves (assuming the noun is declined as third-gender regular, eg: canis,
> canes [that's "dog" for those of you who didn't have to take Latin at
> school])
But Travii looks cooler, like Elvii.
cheers,
tegan (*)
tegan@offcenter.org
http://offcenter.org/~tegan
Ice is all he was made of
The bitter blue, and frozen through
He went over to the mound
Reclining down his final thoughts
Were drifting to the time this life had shined
- Phish, Mound
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Wendy S. Penberriss" <penberriss@yahoo.com>
To: Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk>, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
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--- Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk> wrote:
>I quite like Anna Grant as well, once she loses
the dreadful perm and stops >being a simpering git
and turns into hardcore Federation chick with
ambitions.
Awww-- we finally see what Avon saw in her, minutes
before she bites the dust.
>And it's a great Servalan episode. She is so brave...
Well, I'd call it something else ;). But yes.
>drama-school-improvisation-exercise stylee. I know
Josette Simon was only 5 >minutes out of RADA, but
still...)
Really? Wow.
Wendy
"It's an old wall, Avon, it waits."
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:33:30 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Recruitment
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On Thu 22 Jun, Marian de Haan wrote:
>
> Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> wrote:
> >> begin Helen Krummenacker quotation:
> >> > I think the Liberator was *supposed* to have enough people that one
> person could just stand there and press the button. 5-6 people do not make a
> full complement for a ship that size.
>
> > This, of course, makes the whole "why doesn't Blake invite more people on
> to his crew?" bit the more ridiculous.
>
> Considering the trouble he had getting his small crew to do his bidding, he
> can be excused for not bothering. :-) Besides, Avon, Jenna and Vila would
> not be pleased with the addition of some dedicated, selfless freedom
> fighters who would encourage Blake in his dangerous missions. I can see
> those three working together to prevent any candidate from joining them.
And when Star Four comes out, you can read a story on this very theme...
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org )
Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:30:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
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On Thu 22 Jun, Jurgen van de Sanden wrote:
> Your episode reviews are great! Very interesting and very well written!
> Unfortunately I couldn't find the reviews of 'Orac' to 'Killer'. Haven't
> they been added yet?
I'm working through them doing the occasional edit (Marian asked me to
correct any Dutch/English typos - though there are very few of them) and adding
the occasional comment. Once I've done that, they go up on the next site upload
which can sometimes mean a few day's delay. There's 4 waiting to be uploaded at
the moment.
I think they're great. I must have watched the series I don't know how many
times and yet Marian found plot holes that I missed. Mind you, <grin> I found
one great big one that she'd missed, so we're almost even.
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org )
Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:44:33 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: "Harriet Monkhouse" <101637.2064@compuserve.com>,
"Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Travis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: Blake's 7 (Lysator) <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Travis
> crewmate (Blake or Tarrant). Avon shoots well-known one-eyed man whom he
> assumes (rightly or wrongly) is responsible for crewmate's injuries, not
to
> mention a large-scale act of treachery.
Cf. "The Mark of Kane" audiotape. "Welcome to the Travis club," says Kane as
Blake is stabbed in the eye...
Fiona
Fiona Moore
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html
Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:57:08 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: "Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re [B7L] crew
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Nick Moffitt wrote:
> Remember that Lurena was conditioned. That's why she didn't scream.<
She was conditioned not to reveal anything about Star One. That doesn't
necessarily include being conditioned not to scream on finding a room full
of corpses. After all, her conditioners could not have foreseen that
occasion arising. :-)
Marian
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:08:49 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] shields up
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From: Roger the Shrubber <powerplay@cheerful.com>
To: blake's seven <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:08 PM
Subject: [B7L] shields up
> For example
> Microsoft is pleased to announce Plasma Bolt Detector v1.0, incorporating
> Shield Raiser public beta - Trust it with your life !
Hm, what a horrible thought. A few others:
Long-Range Detectors powered by AltaVista v. 2.1: unless you input your
search parameters in pure boolean format, it sends you back a list of every
asteroid and space particle in the region, in no particular order...
RealScanner Basic v. 4.0. "Put it on the visual, Zen" "Confirmed, now wait
20 minutes for download. Oh, and if the streaming is patchy it's not our
fault, it's your connection..." (Scorpio, naturally, has the QuickTime
version, which is just as bad and requires a plugin which crashes your whole
system...)
Microsoft Onboardcomputer Suite 7. Ten fiddly little programmes you never
use, and one you always would do except that you can't figure out the
commands. When you hit the Help key, a little paperclip pops up and says
"Terribly sorry, marster, but..."
Microsoft Orac 2000. Glitzy popups, daily helpful hints, fully
web-enabled... and it still won't give you a straight answer. Prone to
viruses, which is actually a plus as the results are very enteratining....
Of course, things are not likely to be much better on the other side:
"Mutoid, what do you mean you've lost them?"
"I keep hitting 'search,' Commander, but I just keep getting 404. Perhaps if
we disconnected and reconnected in ten minutes?"
Fiona
Fiona Moore
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html
Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:40:19 EDT
From: B7Morrigan@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
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> > > And has anyone noticed she has a statue of a nude lady on her desk?
> >
> > Not noticed that, <considers the implications of nude statuary> what
like,
> > an arty classical-esque nude? <note to self, pay way more attention> :-)
> >
> > Izzy
Probably more along the lines of indicating Servalan's taste in fine art.
Perhaps she's a bit of a deco collector and it's a Frankart (not on the BBC
budget, must have been borrowed). Those are quite lovely, flowing and
graceful.
Trish
"I don't mind rough. It's fatal I'm not too keen on. "
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:20:11 EDT
From: B7Morrigan@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
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Yes, Penny. It's time to confess. We, the mad-for-Avon, can stand Avon in
almost anything (even a bit of overacting although not those shoulderpads
from Deathwatch) but Anna/Sula? THIS (shuddering quite obviously) is what
our hero has been pining after for all those years? We see him in a new and
tragic light, the light of unbelievably horrid taste and rose-colored
glasses. It's not an attractive sight.
Sally expressed it in quite restrained words:
I think she has the soul of a loathsome spotted toad and a voice like
fingernails on a blackboard, you are more inclined to wonder what the hell
got into the Beloved Idiot to waste all that time and effort and emotion on
her. Which does sort of put a crimp
in the romance and the sentiment.
> > Now had it been someone like Levett (MoD)...
No, I don't think that's quite right either. However, I've been looking for
a story title and Beloved Idiot might just do... <g>
Trish
"I don't mind rough. It's fatal I'm not too keen on. "
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:49:16 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Interesting food (not jelly or Jell-O)
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Harriet asks:
> Have you tried marmite on chocolate cake?
No, and given my intense loathing of marmite I am unlikely to. Besides, the
purity of chocolate cake is too precious to be violated.
I've been known to have onion bhajee sandwiches for breakfast.
Neil
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:40:18 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Sighting....
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I was watching an old episode of Yes Minister earlier this evening, on our
local PBS TV station, here in Toronto. The episode was "Death List", where
Jim Hacker is listed on a freedom fighting team's assassination list. He
gets assigned a team of bodyguards from Special Branch... and one of them is
Michael Keating.
He only had two lines... but the surprising thing was seeing him with a
moustache. Don't think it suited him at all! I'm pretty sure it was filmed
in the early 80's but I'm not sure if it was post B7, or filmed during a
season break. Good to see him though.
Steve Dobson.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:58:13 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: <Tigerm1019@aol.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Jell-O/ jelly rebellion
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Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Jell-O/ jelly rebellion
> In a message dated 06/21/2000 7:17:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
> jeroenkw@gns.getronics.nl writes:
>
> > Thanx, I'll look for it tonight. I'm sure the flavor is ok. I always
wanted
> > to wobble the plate with some yello on it! :)
> >
> > If nothing else I could make some moondisks ! ;)
>
> I recommend the cherry flavor. Orange is also pretty good, with shredded
> pineapple in it.
>
> Or you could combine the two to get the proper color for moondiscs. ;-)
Another fun thing is to make it with vodka instead of water. VERY
entertaining at parties!
Fiona
Fiona Moore
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html
Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:12:26 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Tynus aboard?
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> Tynus (Killer - Avon's friend trying to stab Avon's Fearless
> Leader in the back. Yum)
Oh, wow. What a possibility... Tynus is now the one talking about how
easy to just fly off stranding Fearless Leader and anyone else
inconvienient... Avon's the one saying "Don't touch those controls". And
trying desperately to justify everything logically. "We need to be able
to trust the remaining crew, and for *that*, they need to think they can
trust us. Give them one more hour to contact the ship. After that, we
can say they are lost, and we must cut our losses."
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:14:03 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: crew additions
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> I liked Docholli, from Gambit. He was also on the run from the Federation,
> looking for a place to hide and the crew only really had Cally doing first
> aid. I bet they could have used a decent medic from time to time. A
> likeable guy, experienced with the Federation, probably could have been very
> useful.
> Steve Dobson.
Last, but not least, a drinking buddy for Vila.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:15:21 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: If we'd been there
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> And Steve, did you really have to ask Cally if you could see
> > how much hair she had under that dress?
>
> Umm.. .it was part of a scientific experiment I was doing on Aliens...
> honest!
>
"There is no logical reason why aliens should be hairy."
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:03:29 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L]Sarcophagus (was RoD (was Animals))
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>
>Dana asked:
>>(....who thinks Ultraworld is much, much worse than either
>>Sarcophagus or Animals)
Whats wrong with Ultraworld and Sarcophagus? I really like these two, they
are in my top ten. Although Im not a fan of Animals. (Justin is soooooooo
ewwwww IMHO) <G> I really dislike 'Stardrive' too. Ive taken to calling
that the 'Punk rockers from outer space' episode. I really find it hard to
watch. Sorry but its true. Each to their own.
Min. xxx
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:48:27 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [B7L]lost episodes: was: Animals
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>> And Penny wrote:
>> *Everything* was better than Stardrive, include the lost episodes
Huh?? Ive missed something. What lost episodes???? /me sitting up with
raised eyebrows.
Cheers Min. xxx
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:57:08 +0200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <inquisitioner@wish.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: If we'd been there
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At 06:15 24-6-00, Helen Krummenacker wrote:
> > And Steve, did you really have to ask Cally if you could see
> > > how much hair she had under that dress?
> >
> > Umm.. .it was part of a scientific experiment I was doing on Aliens...
> > honest!
> >
>"There is no logical reason why aliens should be hairy."
So that's what you were up to, trying to prove Steve wrong. Vila did seem
rather busy with bets on all kinds of things, and I'm sure that when he was
encouraging Steve, it was for purely scientific reasons. I guess you were
simply trying to prove them wrong. But I think Cally would have been more
likely to go along if you hadn't dressed up as fourth season Avon. All that
black leather and all those metal studs would have given anyone pause.
I don't know what the others were up to, because I was kinda busy trying to
convince Orac that "99 bottles of beer on the wall" was too a logical song
and that it would all make sense if he sang it all the way to the end. I
think the snotty little glowbox just didn't want us to find out that it
couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.
So what were the rest of you up to? I mean, we couldn't possibly have been
kicked out for that bit of innocent fun we were having when we convinced
the battle computer to play packman with the local asteroid belt. So fess
up, guys. Anyone been snooping around in the strong room? I do seem to
remember seeing Ellynne dressed up as Servalan sneaking away with Travis
and a few mutoids.
Jacqueline
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:39:43 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]Sarcophagus (was RoD (was Animals))
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:07:54 EST "Jessica Taylor"
<morgaine54@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> Dana asked:
> >(....who thinks Ultraworld is much, much worse than either
> >Sarcophagus or Animals)
>
> What was wrong with Sarcophagus?
Hey, it's one of my favorites. Good character interactions with some
creepy undertones. What more could anyone want?
I keep wondering if I'm missing
> something
> but I really enjoyed that episode. I admit it was a little
> implausible
If we're going for plausible, there are a lot of other episodes with
bigger problems than this.
but
> it made sense and the scene with Vila doing magic tricks must make
> up for
> any other shortcomings (the a/c stuff was cute too).
>
Agreed.
Ellynne
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:31:14 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tynus aboard?
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:12:26 -0700 Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes:
> > Tynus (Killer - Avon's friend trying to stab Avon's Fearless
> > Leader in the back. Yum)
>
> Oh, wow. What a possibility... Tynus is now the one talking about
> how
> easy to just fly off stranding Fearless Leader and anyone else
> inconvienient... Avon's the one saying "Don't touch those controls".
> And
> trying desperately to justify everything logically. "We need to be
> able
> to trust the remaining crew, and for *that*, they need to think they
> can
> trust us. Give them one more hour to contact the ship. After that,
> we
> can say they are lost, and we must cut our losses."
>
Now, this is a tempting idea. Then there would be those scary days when
these two actually _agreed_ on what they were going to do....
Ellynne
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:36:12 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #172
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:36:27 -0700 Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes:
> > Lurena from Star One. [Yes, you may groan but I like the character
> :-)]
> > She must be a skilled technician to be of use on Star One and she
> doesn't
> > scream when she finds those bodies.
>
> Actually, Marian, I'd agree. She also was aware soemthing was
> terribly
> wrong on Star One, and ready to confront the others to find out what
> was
> goig on.
> It would be interesting to have someone who has been a Federation
> Loyalist in a position on the Liberator.
The big question is whether they'd find a way to overcome her programming
or whether her programming, which was centered on Star One, wouldn't kick
in of the Liberator, OR whether, having been programmed to protect the
computers Blake & co. tried to defend and the Federation failed to
protect, she might be forced to change sides.
Ellynne
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:29:18 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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> So what were the rest of you up to?
[snip]
So
> fess
> up, guys. Anyone been snooping around in the strong room? I do seem
> to
> remember seeing Ellynne dressed up as Servalan sneaking away with
> Travis
> and a few mutoids.
>
Uh, no offense, but if you saw that, you _really_ shouldn't have eaten
the jell-o/jelly Vila offered you. I was just having a quiet chat with
Cally about what films she thought were deep and meaningful. We were
just saying how everybody _had_ to see the complete, unabridged Les
Miserables (complete with a two hour documentary about the Paris sewers)
and a few side comments on how they could make the Liberator look sunnier
and more cheerful (I had some sunflower posters and smiley faces I'd be
glad to loan her). It really went over well, since Blake and Avon
immediately asked what I thought they should do with the teleport room,
that being the first bit of the Liberator people see when they come on
board. I was just looking around and making some suggestions when
someone accidentally turned on the teleport.
Ellynne
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:14:26 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Lurena (was blakes7-d Digest V00 #172)
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Ellynne wrote re the possibility of Lurena joining the crew:
>The big question is whether they'd find a way to overcome her programming
or whether her programming, which was centered on Star One, wouldn't kick in
of the Liberator, OR whether, having been programmed to protect the
computers Blake & co. tried to defend and the Federation failed to protect,
she might be forced to change sides.<
I suppose that they could deprogram her with Orac's help, like they began on
Blake in Voice from the Past. Now I wonder which crewmember Orac would
recommend for the 'dual therapy'? :-)
The reaction of the one chosen would be interesting. Cally, as alien, would
probably be left out. I think Jenna would refuse outright. (Suffering for
her Beloved Leader is one thing, but for a stranger... No way!) Blake would
volunteer, but it's likely that all the tampering done with his mind would
make him unsuitable. Vila would be unreliable, as he would start moaning
and yelling for them to stop even before the therapy started. Which would
leave Avon, who I can't see being that obliging, unless it appealed to his
scientific curiosity. :-)
Assuming, of course, that Blake and Jenna would still be there. What I
meant when I first mentioned Lurena was that I would have liked to see her
survive and join them for S3 instead of Dayna or Tarrant.
Marian
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:20:09 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
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Penny,
> --Penny (hoping that agreeing with Neil just this once won't undermine my
> hard-won Frivolous Pervert credentials)
Ooh, I shouldn't think so ;)
Una
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:25:42 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] RoD (was Animals)
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Penny wrote:
> At 02:09 PM 6/21/00 +0100, Una McCormack wrote:
>
> >PS Penny, your remark that you liked 'Animals' more than 'Stardrive'
could
> >well be the first step towards ending the holy Travis war...
>
> Hmm...a FINALACT/People For The Ethical Treatment of "Animals" alliance?
> You'll replace the phrase "Cheap Cockney Imitation" with "Vastly Superior
> Specimen" on your site, right,
Penny, not even for you can I tell a lie.
> and a renunciation of all your misguided
> campaigning for GITHOG?
I am at heart a campaigner for lost causes.
> And you'll admit publically that Ralph Fiennes is
> the only reasonable choice to play Avon in the six jillion dollar
> big-screen B7 remake?
I would do it, but I'm afraid I throw up when I say Ralph Feu-urgh...
> And I'll put up some sexy pictures of Og on my site. Wild thing! You make
> my heart sing!
>
> Oh wow man this is beautiful, I can practically taste the love in the air.
That'll be the cordite.
> Okay, now we just need a cute acronym so I can forget what it stands for.
> And badges, of course. I'll meet you in the empty auditorium to finalize
> the transaction.
I'll only bring my genetically modified warrior creatures.
Una
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:28:05 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Animals
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Sally wrote:
> Do we *all* have Valium episodes (as apart from just plain ones we don't
> like?) I recall Betty saying that a possible convert fell asleep during
TWB
> on her ...
TWB is pretty slow... Umm, probably 'Pressure Point'. They all run across
the grass, in turn. They all go down the blue corridor. Then the red
corridor. Then the white corridor. It's quite possible we see them coming
back, but I've usually given up by then.
Una
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:45:12 EDT
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Valium episodes (was Re: [B7L] Animals)
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In a message dated 06/24/2000 10:28:08 AM Central Daylight Time,
una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk writes:
> TWB is pretty slow... Umm, probably 'Pressure Point'. They all run across
> the grass, in turn. They all go down the blue corridor. Then the red
> corridor. Then the white corridor. It's quite possible we see them coming
> back, but I've usually given up by then.
I can see this, although Travis 2 can always keep my attention. The Way Back
is slow in places, but it gave me a lot to think about, so I didn't get
bored. Mission to Destiny was my sleep-through episode. ;-)
Tiger M
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:43:49 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: If we'd been there
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From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
> > And Steve, did you really have to ask Cally if you could see
> > > how much hair she had under that dress?
> >
> > Umm.. .it was part of a scientific experiment I was doing on Aliens...
> > honest!
ASctuiallky tyhat was mwe. SDhe daid "YTouch me ansd I'lll nbreak alkl your
finghers" bnut sdhe didnt souind tertrribly cvonvincinmg
BNeil
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:12:05 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Animals
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From: Una McCormack <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
> TWB is pretty slow... Umm, probably 'Pressure Point'. They all run across
> the grass, in turn. They all go down the blue corridor. Then the red
> corridor. Then the white corridor. It's quite possible we see them coming
> back, but I've usually given up by then.
What really pissed me off is they way they never went through the arched
window.
Neil
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:53:09 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Freedom City" <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] Back from the conference
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I just got back from delivering a paper on the Q study at a conference in
cultural studies in Birmingham. It's quite an important conference on the
circuit, so I was fairly chuffed to get the paper accepted. I was even more
chuffed when Henry Jenkins ('Textual Poachers' guy) turned up specially to
hear it!
Unfortunately, we'd had to shift round the order of papers slightly and I'd
already spoken, but this ended up working in my favour as 1. I was already
nervous enough thank you very much; and, 2. it meant he came to speak to me
afterwards and asked for a copy of the paper, so email addresses were
exchanged <happy little jig>
As a result of the paper, I also made contact with some academics working on
TVSF in the UK, and one of them invited me to give a paper at a panel he's
doing on 'The Creations of Terry Nation'. Woo hoo! I'm going to argue that
B7 was a Chris Boucher creation rather than a Terry Nation one, and I throw
that one over to you all for closer scrutiny!
Can I thank everyone again for contributing to the study, and then debating
the results with me? I had a brilliant evening last night, and it's because
of all the people round here.
Cheers, chaps!
Una
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:21:41 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Crew, Models and Liaisons (OK, it's mostly about
Jarriere)
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Judith asked
>Of all the people whom they met on their travels,
>who would you most like to have joined the crew?
Apart from Jarriere, you mean? Hm. Tempting to go for my favourite
characters, but Rontane as a crew member is just a bit hard to swallow.
Kasabi is one of my heroines, but I'm not sure how it would work out on the
ship - either she'd get on too well with Blake, and all the non-rebels
would be squeezed out, or Blake would suddenly find working with another
charismatic rebel leader quite awkward, which could lead to some
interesting conflict.
I can just about see Par fitting in, if he'd been thrown out of the
Federation - lots of interest in crew learning to overcome their distrust.
Toise would be a hilarious addition if he could keep his carnival
headdress.
Useful recruits: a ship's doctor, freeing Cally and/or Gan to do something
else. Three suggestions: Bellfriar (extra bonus: older, wiser head);
Docholli (older, not necessarily wiser, but a drinking crony for Vila);
Franton (seemed a sensible person, and even though she didn't seem to be
telepathic would help Cally to feel less homesick). Or a diplomat, to help
in negotiations with other planets: the adorable Max of Teal.
One of the most interesting possibilities would be take up Travis's
suggestion from Hostage that he should work with the rebels, and to spend
the rest of the series trying to work out whether he's lying or not.
Except it would be rather a short series if he is.
If it's fourth season, I want Pella, with similar doubts about her
loyalties.
Somebody round here (could it have been Betty?) once had the rather
wonderful idea of putting DS9's Garak on the Liberator. Whoever it was,
get on and write the story...
Topic 2: About Jarriere models. I'd be prepared to commit to one fully
assembled, Kelvin-painted Jarriere plus two in bits and pieces if that
meant they got commissioned.
Also Servalan, preferably in Gambit dress to go with Jarriere, if anyone
else is interested.
I'd probably be interested any first/second season crew (will there be an
Orac?) eventually, but all at once might be a bit pricy. So if anyone's
looking for someone to make a fifth order, let me know.
Topic 3: Dangerous Liaisons update: I've now fast-forwarded through
Ellie's video to check out Harry Jones's appearance. It's about 20 minutes
into the film (a bit less allowing for the stuff at the start of the video)
and he's on screen for half a minute. Scenario: Valmont, learning that he
is being followed by la Presidente de Tourvel's manservant, contrives to be
seen in the village paying off the bailiffs who have arrived to seize the
property of an honest peasant struck down by illness. He enters the hovel
and finds M. Jarriere, I mean M. Armand, an old man with lank white hair
and an oddly familiar nose, sitting on a bed. Dialogue is something like
this:
VALMONT: You don't know me...
ARMAND (in oddly familiar Scottish accent): Oh, of course I do, Vicomte...
VALMONT: No, don't get up...
ARMAND: I have to, they're going to take the bed...
VALMONT: They're not taking anything!
He strolls out, while Armand, his wife and children gambol round kissing
his hands.
Harriet
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:03:36 EDT
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Marion McChesney funeral info
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I've been given permission to pass this along. The e-mails sent to Martha
are being collected to give to Marion's family.
> Forwarded with permission:
>
> << Marion McChesney's funeral will be at 11:00 a.m. on Monday at Govans
> Presbyterian Church in Baltimore. The address is 5824 York Rd. (for those
> who know Baltimore, it's next to the famous Senator Theatre.) Following
the
>
> funeral, there will be a chance for people to visit and reminisce in the
> church's hall.
>
> Again, viewing times are 3-5 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. at Sterling Ashton Schwab
> Funeral Home at 736 Edmonson Ave, Catonsville, MD 21228. The phone number
> for the funeral home is: 410-747-5324.
>
> Marion's sister recommends that if you'd like to use a particular florist,
> call Gabrielle's at 410-879-5820, as they are a florist the family has
used
> for many years.
>
> Martha >>
>
>
> Merricat
Tiger M
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