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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 00 : Issue 230

Today's Topics:
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Isobel Gordon" <isobel@ussenterpri ]
  [B7L] Re: The Way Back                [ Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1 ]
  RE: [B7L] Re: Before bed              [ Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinte ]
  RE: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinte ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.s ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7 haiku           [ "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.n ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect. ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: Before bed              [ Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demo ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7 haiku           [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ]
  [B7L] New frame captures              [ Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net> ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  [B7L] Re: [B7] Haiku-tastic           [ "Gary" <gadam@shore.net> ]
  Re: [B7L] Showing my ignorance        [ "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmai ]
  [B7L] Haiku - Off-topic               [ "Ann Basart" <abasart@dnai.com> ]
  haiku                                 [ "Roger the Shrubber" <powerplay@che ]
  [B7L] Haiku-tastic                    [ Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk> ]
  RE: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinte ]

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:29:18 +0100
From: "Isobel Gordon" <isobel@ussenterprise.ndo.co.uk>
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Sand:

Sand farming humans,
Are those just crocodile tears?
Let me out now please!

Izzy

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:48:18 +0000
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: The Way Back
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Judith said: "Only once in the series does a character
goof and say 'beam me up' but I can't recall which episode so don't know
who
wrote it."

I don't see why this is a goof. There is no reason to assume the term
'beam me up' wasn't known, just maybe a piece of slang not commonly
used, which is why we only hear it once. After all, this is in the
future and they may have watched old Star Trek shows on whatever their
equivaent to UK Gold is.

--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson

Redemption: The Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 convention
23-25 February 2001, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:17:13 +-100
From: Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinternet.com>
To: 'B7 Lysator' <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Re: Before bed
Message-ID: <01C0061F.BEA7E180@host62-7-26-226.btinternet.com>

Steve wrote:

>My initial reaction was it has to be Buffy. But then thinking about it,
>I normally watch a Star Trek: TNG before bed.

After all, if you watched something exciting it might wake you up :-)

Louise

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:44:47 +-100
From: Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinternet.com>
To: 'B7 Lysator' <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
Message-ID: <01C00620.1315F4A0@host62-7-26-226.btinternet.com>

OK, bait swallowed, here we go:

Dawn of the Gods:
Drivel for a plot
Even a dearth of good lines
Chris Boucher on strike?

Traitor:
Rebels in the mud,
Dying betrayed, little hope.
Reality bites.

Voice from the Past:
Travis the mummy!
So why do we watch at all?
We like the black shirt....

Sand:
Revisit the past
And expose an old weakness.
Not ever again.

Countdown:
The rebels invade;
The bomb might destroy us all.
And I had no say.

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Date: 14 Aug 2000 20:56:48 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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>>>>> "Judith" == Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com> writes:

> Only once in the series does a character goof and say 'beam me up'
> but I can't recall which episode so don't know who wrote it.

From "Orac":

    AVON:  Then crawl, but put that on! Gan, you stay here with Jenna.
           Make sure that one of you stays conscious long enough to
           beam us back up again.
 
-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
     "Surely the 98% of DNA we share with monkeys must be enough to stop
	      people from sinking this low. " -- Frossie, A.S.R

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Date:   Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:01:49 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: "Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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Judith Proctor wrote:
>No, I don't think Nation was clumsy enough to use the Star Terk term in his
own series to mean teleport.  I think transporter was a handy generic term
to avoid having to say 'car' or 'flyer' etc.  Only once in the series does a
character goof and say 'beam me up' but I can't recall which episode so
don't know who wrote it.<

It was in 'Orac' (by Terry Nation), when Avon has decided to go to look
what's taking Blake so long he says to Jenna: "Make sure that one of you
stays conscious long enough to beam us back up again."

Of course it is possible that the script said something like "*bring* us
back up again" but that Paul Darrow fluffed his line.  (Maybe he'd been
watching Startrek?)  :-)

Marian

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:35:58 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7 haiku
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Haikus everywhere - 
I can't stand it anymore.
Damn Ms McCormack!

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:57:31 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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>
> Always looked like a solid wall being made transparant to me.  The barrier
is
> still there - Varon can't get into the cell.

Guess so.  Although that shows inconsistencies with the other parts of the
episode.  Why would the cells in the pre-trial area be hidden by a solid
wall, but the transportation holding area cells are open for all to see?
Blake's cell in the trial area is similar to the one he's in when he first
meets Varon - it would've been good for the Federation to be able to
teleport the entire cell and its occupant around.  But in the end, we know
they didn't have teleportation.


Steve Dobson.

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:12:10 +0200
From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: steve.rogerson@journalist.co.uk
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Before bed 
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SteveR:
> My initial reaction was it has to be Buffy. But then thinking about it,
> I normally watch a Star Trek: TNG before bed.

k and I developed the unfortunate habit of watching a season of B5
before bed. Might explain why we were so knackered last year. :-)

steve

"Oh go on, then - one more episode"

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:20:54 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7 haiku
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Neil:

> Haikus everywhere - 
> I can't stand it anymore.
> Damn Ms McCormack!

Don't complain, Faulkner.
I can make it worse for you - 
Bring on the penguins!


Una

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:43:19 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
Subject: [B7L] New frame captures
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"Rumours of Death" has been added to my frame capture library. There are 
180 images in this set.

The library can be found at: http://lcw.simplenet.com/b7lib.html

	- Lisa
--
_____________________________________________________________
  Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@raytheon.com
  Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
  From Eroica With Love: http://eroicafans.org/

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:37:14 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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I'm actually no good at haiku and have been content to sit back in awe at
everyone else's efforts, but here goes. Naturally, this is overly
influenced by my own, extensive and, er, creative reinterpretation of a
certain episode.

Dawn of the Gods
"Just stories," she said,
Trying not to know there are
Monsters in the dark.

Ellynne
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:26:04 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:01:49 +0200 "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
writes:
> 
> Of course it is possible that the script said something like 
> "*bring* us
> back up again" but that Paul Darrow fluffed his line.  (Maybe he'd 
> been
> watching Startrek?)  :-)
> 
OTOH, there's a little piece of crossover fiction I've been working on
where it would be very _significant_ that _Avon_  was the one using ST
terminology.

Unfortunately, I forgot about the cell with the forcefield wall.  That
causes problems, since I had a whole forcefield technology theory worked
out (it can still work, the main argument is about forcefields on ships,
but I would prefer more limited forcefield use by the Federation. Maybe I
can argue Blake was in a cell with a two way mirror but otherwise normal
substance wall? [for those who need to know, the difference in special
effects and teleport technology did lead me to give the ST element the
clearly superior technology]).

Win some, lose some.

Ellynne 
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:19:39 -0400
From: "Gary" <gadam@shore.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: [B7] Haiku-tastic
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How about this one for 'Star One'

Blake brings us out now
for the sake of jellyfish
cheaply kills Travis.

Good, bad or just dangerous to contemplate?

Gary

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:40:00 EST
From: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Showing my ignorance
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>
>Jessica said:
> > Re your B7 question I can't remember any episode where anyone got
>teleported
> > to another part of the ship, so I assume that a person needs to either 
>be
> > going from or coming to the teleport room.
>I always assumed that teleporting takes power, which is why they need those
>!@##$$%^ crystals, so it would be worse than driving to the health club to
>teleport within the ship.
>-(Y)
>Grinning <g>
>En route to a Very Evil Grin <veg>
>But I still don't know what IIRC stands for.

That was the other one I couldn't remember. According to the site Penny sent 
earlier:

IIRC=If I Remember/Recall Correctly

Hooray!
Jessica
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:40:24 -0700
From: "Ann Basart" <abasart@dnai.com>
To: "Blake's7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Haiku - Off-topic
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Sony has announced its own computer operating system now available on =
its hot new portable PC called the Vaio. Instead of producing the =
cryptic error messages characteristic of Microsoft's Windows, Sony's =
chairman Asai Tawara said, "We intend to capture the high ground by =
putting a human, Japanese, face on what has been - until now - an =
operating system that reflects Western cultural hegemony. For example, =
we have replaced the impersonal and unhelpful Microsoft error messages =
with our own Japanese haiku-poetry."=20

The chairman went on to give examples of Sony's new error messages:



A file that big?

It might be very useful.

But now it's gone.



The Web site you seek

cannot be located, but

countless more exist.



Chaos reigns within.

Reflect, repent, and reboot.

Order shall return.



ABORTED effort:

Close all that you have worked on.

You ask way too much.



Yesterday it worked.

Today it is not working.

Windows is like that.



First snow, then silence.

This thousand dollar screen dies

so beautifully.



With searching comes loss

and the presence of absence:

"My Novel" not found.



The Tao that is seen

Is not the true Tao, until

You bring fresh toner.



Windows NT crashed.

I am the Blue Screen of Death.

No one hears your screams.



Stay the patient course

Of little worth is your ire

The network is down.



A crash reduces

your expensive computer

to a simple stone.



Three things are certain:

Death, taxes, and lost data.

Guess which has occurred.



You step in the stream,

but the water has moved on.

This page is not here.



Out of memory.

We wish to hold the whole sky,

But we never will.



Having been erased,

The document you're seeking

Must now be retyped.



Serious error.

All shortcuts have disappeard.

Screen. Mind. Both are blank.



PS - I loved the B7 Haiku.

Ann (delurking briefly)

And these are from the Internet, but I can't recall the source.




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<P>It might be very useful.</P>
<P>But now it&#8217;s gone.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>The Web site you seek</P>
<P>cannot be located, but</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Chaos reigns within.</P>
<P>Reflect, repent, and reboot.</P>
<P>Order shall return.</P>
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<P>You ask way too much.</P>
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<P>Yesterday it worked.</P>
<P>Today it is not working.</P>
<P>Windows is like that.</P>
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<P>and the presence of absence:</P>
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<P>You bring fresh toner.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Windows NT crashed.</P>
<P>I am the Blue Screen of Death.</P>
<P>No one hears your screams.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Stay the patient course</P>
<P>Of little worth is your ire</P>
<P>The network is down.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>A crash reduces</P>
<P>your expensive computer</P>
<P>to a simple stone.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Three things are certain:</P>
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<P>Guess which has occurred.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>You step in the stream,</P>
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<P>This page is not here.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Out of memory.</P>
<P>We wish to hold the whole sky,</P>
<P>But we never will.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Having been erased,</P>
<P>The document you&#8217;re seeking</P>
<P>Must now be retyped.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Serious error.</P>
<P>All shortcuts have disappeard.</P>
<P>Screen. Mind. Both are blank.</P>
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:52:44 +1000
From: "Roger the Shrubber" <powerplay@cheerful.com>
To: "blake's seven" <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: haiku 
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A couple for Horizon with the same first line.

Ancient land of Ro,
Wife's despair a price too high. 
No more.  I choose love.

and

Ancient land of Ro, 
Sold for trinkets & handshakes, 
The old ways are best


darren r





Yes, shrubberies are my trade. I am a shrubber. My name is
Roger the Shrubber. I arrange, design and sell shrubberies.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:09:52 GMT
From: Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject:  [B7L] Haiku-tastic
Message-Id: <200008151609.RAA08144@smtp.uk2net.com>

> People have been doing sterling work going for non-obvious gaps, but I
> notice there are some left unfilled... (BTW, I found that I had a pre-typed
> out episode list for just this sort of task - does anyone else have one of
> those?).

Mine is handwritten and has stars against all the ones with Servalan in and T's 
against all the ones with Travis in. It lives on the floor next to my computer.

> 
> Anyway, currently unhaiku-ed:
> Sand

Fantasy writers
Should not be allowed to get
Their hands on Servie.

Or:

Wonderful woman
Transformed into soppy tart
By lame plot device


Or:

Water cube too small
To wash Del off what was once
Unviolated

(hmm, that one needs work)

Love, Ika 

(PS: dissertation going well, Una, as you can
see...)

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:04:39 +-100
From: Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinternet.com>
To: 'B7 Lysator' <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
Message-ID: <01C006E3.EB43B600@host213-123-24-36.btinternet.com>

Hmmm, I sent this 24 hours ago and it hasn't come back t me. Apologies if you all now receive 2 copies.....

OK, bait swallowed, here we go:

Dawn of the Gods:
Drivel for a plot
Even a dearth of good lines
Chris Boucher on strike?

Traitor:
Rebels in the mud,
Dying betrayed, little hope.
Reality bites.

Voice from the Past:
Travis the mummy!
So why do we watch at all?
We like the black shirt....

Sand:
Revisit the past
And expose an old weakness.
Not ever again.

Countdown:
The rebels invade;
The bomb might destroy us all.
And I had no say.

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