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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 253
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet ]
Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk> ]
[B7L] Re: Sara = 54124 [ Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> ]
Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = 54124 [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = 54124 [ Betty Ragan <ragan@sdc.org> ]
FW: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ Andrew Williams <AWilliams@daikin.c ]
Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ]
Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = 54124 [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
[B7L] Travis personality test shock [ Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org. ]
[B7L] Mission to Destiny [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
[B7L] More rare and out-of-print B7 [ Bizarro7@aol.com ]
[B7L] Whoops. Just added... [ Bizarro7@aol.com ]
Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ "Nic Mayer" <nic@paranoidangel.free ]
Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = Darla? [ Murray <mjsmith@tcd.ie> ]
Evidence of Religion (was Re: [B7L] [ Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana. ]
[B7L] Cult TV and Oxfam [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny [ Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@comp ]
Re: [B7L] Evidence of Religion (was [ "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> ]
Re: [B7L] More rare and out-of-print [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:56:27 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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On Thu 07 Sep, Betty Ragan wrote:
>
> Tavia Chalcraft wrote:
> > I read recently online a really interesting and well-written story about
> > the Ortega crew on the Liberator on the way to Destiny after the end of the
> > episode. Unfortunately, I can't remember where... or the title or author or
> > anything useful, perhaps someone else can help. However, they certainly
> > weren't happy about the loss of the ship.
>
> Erm... I *know* I read something like this, somewhere. (As I believe I
> mentioned at some point on one of these lists, *all* stories, now matter
> how good or bad, eventually tend to jumble together in my mind until I
> can never recall individual details.) I think the one I'm thinking of
> was written as Levitt's personal log or diary, and I seem to recall her
> having a fling with Avon (although those may have been two entirely
> different stories). Totally unhelpful, huh?
Sounds like 'Seven Days to Destiny' by Vega. It's in Star Three (which also
contains Lilian Sheperd's 'Haunting of Haderon which is a real must for Avon and
Vila fans).
Judith
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:33:06 -0400
From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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Una & Tavia mentioned the story "Seven Days to Destiny."
Some points about this episode I haven't seen mentioned:
1. If the !@##$ neutrotope is so !@##$% important, why
do the crew just hand it over to Blake, who they don't know
from Adam's off ox anyway?
2. The box really isn't locked so you'd notice it--it bounces
open when the Liberator hits an air pocket.
3. Nice one, Blake, just leaving the thing on the sofa.
Maybe he was planning to blow up the Ortega anyway
to avoid having to explain why the neutrotope got smashed
to bits.
4. Actually, if you read Sherlock Holmes stories, your actual
Sherlock Holmes can be pretty dense.
-(Y)
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:54:35 GMT
From: Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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Tavia:
>
> My nine favourites, for the record, in some order are: Space Fall,
> Seek--Locate--Destroy, Redemption, Killer, Countdown, Gambit, Star One,
> Terminal, Blake. I could not work out which was tenth. And no, I'm not
> primarily a Blake fan, and I'm as surprised as anyone that they all
> contained Blake.
>
"I'm *not* surprised" - Blake to Avon after the explosion, The Web
Love,
Ika
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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:47:41 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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(snipping all of Ellynne's wonderful linguistics theory and simply
replying to it:)
If the writing was based on an alphabet (SLavic, Celtic, or whatever)
that Avon was comfortably familiar with, that would make him even more
of an idiot for not seeing the word rather than the numbers sooner.
However, if the fellow was writing in a local alphabet, then it becomes
a lucky coincidence that the letters he uses are recognizable even by
stretching the imagination. I'm not sure which of these you were aiming
at, but I think it was the second one?
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:26:14 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = 54124
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:47:41 -0700 Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes:
>
> If the writing was based on an alphabet (SLavic, Celtic, or
> whatever)
> that Avon was comfortably familiar with, that would make him even
> more
> of an idiot for not seeing the word rather than the numbers sooner.
> However, if the fellow was writing in a local alphabet, then it
> becomes
> a lucky coincidence that the letters he uses are recognizable even
> by
> stretching the imagination. I'm not sure which of these you were
> aiming
> at, but I think it was the second one?
Oh, no! I spent all my time explaining the background and skipped the
point! A situation strangely similiar to when I tell jokes but that's
beside the point.
All right, I was assuming it was an alphabet (probably Roman) that Avon,
being a real information addict, had some knowledge of. Between the dead
guy's poor writing and the fact that it was something Avon didn't work
with on anything close to a dayly basis, he had the perfect excuse for
taking a while thinking of it. Cally, whose Terran language knowledge
was probably limited to the Federation's official language, is also
excused (since she had worked in communications, she may have been
familiar with others [or not, Auron was isolationist after all], but
apparently not this one). The others on the ship maybe should have been
a bit quicker, but it might have been like me seeing a badly written word
in Spanish that looked like it might have been something in English. Or
maybe like seeing IV and thinking 4 instead of I.V.
Whew.
On Thu 07 Sep, Ellynne G. wrote:
>Khan Noonian Singh [large snip] one somehow
>feels Tibet is not being blamed for this turn of events]).
Judith wrote:
>Singh is pure Sikh as far as names go - hence I'd assume his native
language as
>Punjab or one of the other Indian languages.
Yeah, but I still think they were trying to implicate Soviet territory
(er, it didn't sound like I was saying that was a Tibetan name, did it?
I was just thinking of Tibet as the least likely country to be used as a
military aggressor in a story [kind of like the joke about the Amish
drive by shooting]). Besides, while it's tempting to make a scenario
where India's caste system had something to do with the Federation's
grading system, it just doesn't feel right (nor does it seem to fit quite
right with the eugenic or genetic modifications Khan & co. had undergone
[I think Fiona's the one whose studied this, but I understand India has
more of a circular view of time emphasizing a less aggressive view
towards change while traditional communism tended to view time more as
linear with conditions either getting better or worse depending on human
response (or sort of, but simplifications and their inherent inaccuracies
have to go somewhere)]).
>Never thought about it before in this context, but Khan is a title as
well as a
>name. eg Ghengis Khan, the Aga Khan and others.
Oh, that's right. But what I wonder about is why Data's creator was Dr.
Noonian Singh. Not that it has anything to do with B7. Unless Noonian
Singh was an escapee from the B7 universe who thought of Noonian Singh as
a common name (from all the little kiddies back home named after the
legendary dictator [does that mean there may be hundreds of little
Servalans someday? Or is this another reason to _really_ want the
Federation overthrown? To spare all the little moppets from cutting off
their hair and tottering around in high heels and slinky eveningwear not
meant to be breathed in?]).
Uh, oh. Dark hair, fair skin, computer genius....
I think we found Avon's brother. Which makes him Data's uncle. Eep.
Oh, well, he ought to like nephew Lore, although I wonder how Orac will
respond to the cousins. Talk about potential sibling (well, familial)
rivalry of epic proportions.
Ellynne
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 00:22:57 -0600
From: Betty Ragan <ragan@sdc.org>
To: B7 Lyst <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Ellynne G. wrote:
> Oh, that's right. But what I wonder about is why Data's creator was Dr.
> Noonian Singh.
Nipick here, and admittedly off-topic, but Data's creator was Dr.
Noonian *Soong*. Which is admittedly similar, but it was likely just
coincidence.
> I think we found Avon's brother. Which makes him Data's uncle. Eep.
> Oh, well, he ought to like nephew Lore, although I wonder how Orac will
> respond to the cousins. Talk about potential sibling (well, familial)
> rivalry of epic proportions.
I do think there's a definite crossover potential in this, though! :)
--
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:40:05 +1000
From: Andrew Williams <AWilliams@daikin.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FW: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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>>Tavia:
>> Well, by popular request and FWIW, the Worst Ten Episode Awards go to:
>>
>> 1: Animals
>
>Hmm.
>
>Una
Anyone else want to see Ms. McCormack with enormous horns and a chicito bar
for a nose appearing in an episode called "Unamals?"
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:39:30 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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Andrew:
> >>Tavia:
> >> Well, by popular request and FWIW, the Worst Ten Episode Awards go to:
> >>
> >> 1: Animals
> >
> >Hmm.
> >
> >Una
>
> Anyone else want to see Ms. McCormack with enormous horns and a chicito
bar
> for a nose appearing in an episode called "Unamals?"
No time in make-up, huh? Sounds good to me.
Una
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:20:04 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = 54124
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On Fri 08 Sep, Ellynne G. wrote:
> On Thu 07 Sep, Ellynne G. wrote:
> >Never thought about it before in this context, but Khan is a title as
> well as a
> >name. eg Ghengis Khan, the Aga Khan and others.
>
> Oh, that's right. But what I wonder about is why Data's creator was Dr.
> Noonian Singh. Not that it has anything to do with B7. Unless Noonian
> Singh was an escapee from the B7 universe who thought of Noonian Singh as
> a common name (from all the little kiddies back home named after the
> legendary dictator [does that mean there may be hundreds of little
> Servalans someday?
If I recall correctly, all Sikhs are called Singh as their last name. It was a
conscious choice when the religion was founded. Thus you only have to explain
Noonian and it might well be a name as traditional as John is for us in Singh's
culture. Basially, pairing Noonian with Singh would not be as controversial as
pairing Adolf with Hitler because of the surname being so widespread. (Unless
his parents thought the Khan was a hero of course - maybe the android was an
attempt to create a perfect being instead of doing it by eugenics...)
Having now drifted totally off topic, let's try and see if there's any evidence
at all for the survival of any living religion in the Federation.
I can only think of the fancy dress nun in Gambit - suggesting that the image
might be recognised, but given Krantor's love of period costumes, that might not
signify.
Judith
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:38:16 +0100
From: Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org.uk>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Travis personality test shock
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I took the 'bastard' test giving my best shot at Travis' answers. It was
surprisingly easy to answer most questions with a reasonable degree of
confidence, and I got a score of 72% bastard. Which doesn't sound that high,
but puts him ahead of 96% of people taking the test. I rather suspect the 4%
who were bigger bastards than Travis were also fictional characters, or the
inflated alter-egos of 13 year old boys.
has anyone done the 'bitch' test for Servalan?
Alison
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:10:44 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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My theories, FWIW ...
Avon is having far too much fun tinkering with the machinery and playing
amateur - and very irritating - detective (and the former is actually taking
up much more of his attention, this is *Avon*, machines before people every
time) to put much serious thought into deciphering the thing. It's just a
flash of inspiration (on seeing the instrument in the filter plant) that
gives it to him.
Cally is way too literal minded to get there before him.
I'm with Judith on Blake and the Ortega - the Liberator was weak at that
minute, Sara and her accomplices were unlikely to sit back and watch them
swan off with the priceless McGuffin without a fight. I see it as a
preemptive strike.
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:18:44 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] More rare and out-of-print B7 zines added...
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The following B7 fanzines are currently listed on the Ashton Press eBay
auction page. Since these are from a personal collection, there will only be
one of each made available, unless a duplicate copy, accidentally purchased,
turns up in the stacks. Most are original print runs, not reprints:
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7/
ORBIT #4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10
HORIZON #9, 12, 18
ROADS NOT TAKEN
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DESPERADO
MAGNIFICENT 7 #9
RETURN OF THE 7 #3
SEVENTH SECTOR #1, 2, 3
DOWN & UNSAFE #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
AVON #1, 2, 7, 8
FAITH HOPE & CHARITY
LEDGE BETWEEN THE STREAMS
BEHIND THE SCENES: TERMINAL
In addition, there are many photos (some of them unique) going up of the B7
characters and actors and the postings will continue on a regular basis.
Please check back regularly to see these rare goodies, if only to look and
enjoy.
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:24:23 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, freedom-city@blakes-7.org
Subject: [B7L] Whoops. Just added...
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...to the Ashton Press eBay zine auction:
HORIZON #6, 7, 10, 14, 15
Good luck!
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:03:12 +0100
From: "Nic Mayer" <nic@paranoidangel.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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From: Betty Ragan <ragan@sdc.org>
To: B7 Lyst <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: 06 September 2000 19:46
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
> > When Avon points out that 54124 is in fact a word (SARA), how on earth
> > does he make 4 an A? The 5 and the 12 I can see, but since when did a 4
> > look like an A? Or am I missing something here? (When he started to
> > explain I thought he was going to stick it in a calculator and turn it
> > upside down, but 2 isn't a letter, nor is 54124 a word)
>
> Well, a 4, hastily written, might look a little like an A with the
> bottom part of the left-hand leg missing. (Um, does that make sense?
> I'm rotten at describing visual things
Someone sent me a piccie of it, so I get it now.
> > Now, Blake goes back to the Liberator and they set off for this planet
to
> > deliver the thing (you can tell I'm good with names).
>
> Actually, this one should be easy. It was -- ready for it? --
> "Destiny." ;)
That did occur to me after I sent the e-mail.
> > Last point - As far as I can tell, Blake doesn't actually kill anyone
> > unless he has to. So why does he quite happily blow up the two ships? I
> > know that these were 'bad' people, but he (or someone else) should have
> > made sure that Sara didn't get an opportunity to take the teleport
> > bracelet off.
>
> Yeah. This is, I think, often cited as evidence of Blake's ruthless
> streak. But, while I certainly admit that he *has* a ruthless streak,
> this still seems a bit out of character to me. If nothing else, I
> imagine the _Ortega_ crew probably were not happy about the loss of
> their ship.
Plus there's the fact that he has no idea of the guilt or innocence (or
numbers) of the people on the other ship. OK, so they're probably not the
nicest people you'd ever want to meet, but then he travels round with
smugglers, murderers and thieves.
And he did blow up rather a lot of money, which should make people unhappy,
although that is the idea, I suppose.
Just wait till I get to see other episodes (like series 2, 3 and 4), I'm
sure I'll find plenty of things to say about those too :)
Nic
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:42:40 +0000
From: Murray <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = Darla?
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One of the things I particularly like about 'Mission to Destiny'
was the villain, Sara, who first came across as the typical 'dumb blonde':
easily scared, not very intelligent, in need of male protection, and fodder
for the villain. Eventually, however, we all saw that she herself was the
tough and very ruthless villain. She reminds me of Darla, a vampire in
'Buffy the Vampire Slayer', who looked and behaved like the 'dumb blonde'
but who was particularly vicious, using her 'helpless' image to catch her
victims.
Murray
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 21:18:13 +1100
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Evidence of Religion (was Re: [B7L] Re: Sara = 54124)
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 08:20:04AM +0100, Judith Proctor wrote:
> Having now drifted totally off topic, let's try and see if there's
> any evidence at all for the survival of any living religion in the
> Federation.
>
> I can only think of the fancy dress nun in Gambit - suggesting that
> the image might be recognised, but given Krantor's love of period
> costumes, that might not signify.
There's also the usage of the word "hell", but again, that could
simply be cultural, rather than religious -- though if all religion is
banned, then one might have thought such a term would be suspect.
"I'm in hell and it's full of Avons!"
-- Vila Restal (Blake's 7: Dawn Of The Gods [C4])
"All right then, give me a good reason. I'm a reasonable man. I'll
accept a good reason. I'll accept a bad reason. I'll accept any damn
reason at all, just tell me what the hell it is I'm meant to have
done."
-- Vila to Kerril
(Blake's 7: City at the Edge of the World [C6])
Servalan: Go to hell, Avon.
Avon: Probably. (Blake's 7: Rumours of Death [C8])
Slave: Sorry, sir.
Tarrant: And don't keep saying you're sorry.
Slave: Sorry, sir.
Tarrant: Don't! What the hell. Preliminary damage survey, Slave.
(Blake's 7: Animals [D5])
Soolin: What does it matter how the poor old man died? The question is
`where the hell is Cancer?'
Avon: Well we know where he isn't. He isn't on the flight deck, he isn't
in his cabin and he isn't in here.
Soolin: Shall we search the rest of the ship?
Avon: Oh I imagine he would just love that, wouldn't you?
(Blake's 7: Assassin [D7])
Avon: You do know that this is a hell of a risk?
Tarrant: It usually is anyway, isn't it?
(Blake's 7: Sand [D9])
Tarrant: A strategic withdrawal is running away - but with dignity.
Vila: So lay in a course and let's get the dignified hell out of
here.
(Blake's 7: Blake [D13])
"So get the hell out of here, will you? There's no point in both of us dying."
-- Del Tarrant to Kerr Avon (Blake's 7: Blake [D13])
Note that most of these are variations on "what the hell" so they
could well be dismissed as linguistic remnants.
However, Vila refers to Hell as a place, and so do Servalan and Avon.
Kathryn Andersen
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:51:20 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] Cult TV and Oxfam
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It's nearly two months until Cult TV. Could people going to the con please do
me a favour?
I'm a volunteer at Oxfam and one of the things I help with is the book
department. We revamped it last week and our book sales have trebbled as a
result. It's great - serious money to help those who really need it - but we're
running out of books!
Could you have a look through your shelves and find books that you're willing to
donate to charity. Bring them along to Cult TV and leave them either at my
stand or at the Redemption stand. (My husband's picking me up in the car, so I
don't have my normal problem of having to limit what I can carry myself)
We really want popular paperback novels in good condition. Lots of them. <grin>
Dig out those books you read on holiday and let someone else read them.
We also sell literature (I notice a book of Blake's poetry sold this morning),
history (books about the war seem to go well), reference books (Jane's
submarines sold today), natural history, travel (almost out of those now), crime
novels (those seem really popular), science fiction (guess which member of staff
insisted on having an SF shelf?), biographies, first editions (you're not
allowed to price books until you've been on a course to enable you to spot the
rarieties) and unused books of crosswords and puzzles.
Give your book a happy ending - donate it to Oxfam.
Judith
PS. We also sell videos, cassettes and CDs. I'll happily accept donations of
those too.
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:57:25 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission to Destiny
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Tavia replied to Una:
>>It was in 'Deadlier than the Male', and it was a =
>>story called (I think) 'Seven Days to Destiny', by Vega.
>Yes, I think that was the one I meant. Well, it must be online somewhere=
these days....
I read it in Star Three, published by Judith.
I keep trying to understand the cult of Levitt, but don't quite get it. =
I
do appreciate her non-bimboish qualities, but I can't get much further th=
an
that on what we're given.
Harriet
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 20:22:45 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Evidence of Religion (was Sara = 54124)
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Judith Proctor wrote:
>> Having now drifted totally off topic, let's try and see if there's
any evidence at all for the survival of any living religion in the
Federation.
>>
>> I can only think of the fancy dress nun in Gambit - suggesting that
the image might be recognised, but given Krantor's love of period
costumes, that might not signify.<<
Kathryn Andersen replied:
>There's also the usage of the word "hell", but again, that could
simply be cultural, rather than religious -- though if all religion is
banned, then one might have thought such a term would be suspect<
<snipped examples>
Hell has become a common word used by non religious people in our time to
describe a nasty place, so I can imagine it being still in use in a
non-religious environment in the future.
What does feel out of place to me is Vila referring to "Judgement Day" in
Horizon.
Marian
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 19:12:27 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] More rare and out-of-print B7 zines added...
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On Fri 08 Sep, Bizarro7@aol.com wrote:
> The following B7 fanzines are currently listed on the Ashton Press eBay
> auction page. Since these are from a personal collection, there will only be
> one of each made available, unless a duplicate copy, accidentally purchased,
> turns up in the stacks. Most are original print runs, not reprints:
>
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7/
>
> ORBIT #4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10
> HORIZON #9, 12, 18
> ROADS NOT TAKEN
> SANCTION
> DESPERADO
> MAGNIFICENT 7 #9
> RETURN OF THE 7 #3
> SEVENTH SECTOR #1, 2, 3
> DOWN & UNSAFE #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
> AVON #1, 2, 7, 8
> FAITH HOPE & CHARITY
> LEDGE BETWEEN THE STREAMS
> BEHIND THE SCENES: TERMINAL
> <A HREF="http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7/">eBay View About Me for
> ashton7</A>
I'd recommed several of the above.
Down and Unsafe was always good quality fiction. Orbit was good, the early
issues were the best. They're both digest zines, but don't let that hide the
writing quality from you.
Roads Not Taken has some really good alternative universe stories and there's
one in it that I'd recommend to any fan of Travis 2.
Desperado is for those who like both Avon and dogs (I found it okay, but nothing
fantastic)
FAITH HOPE & CHARITY + LEDGE BETWEEN THE STREAMS - Judith Seaman stories.
These usually fall into the 'Avon suffers like hell category'. Not for keen
Blake fans, but always well written.
Many of those zines will have listings of stories and authors on my web site if
you want to check out more detail of what is in them. Sarah Thompson has done
an enormous amount of research and the zine data base is largely her work. Just
use the site's search engine and enter the name of the zine you're interested
in. http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org )
Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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