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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 107
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Nicola's going on holiday!
[B7L] sally photos
[B7L] conventional warfare
[B7L] blood serum
Re: [B7L] sally photos
RE: [B7L] sally photos
Re: [B7L] Deliverance pros & cons
[B7L] Re: On the episode Power
[B7L] Re: Deliverance pros and cons
Re: [B7L] Phoenix, Witching Ways
Re: [B7L] sally photos
Re: [B7L] Oracnix
[B7L] Deliverance photos
Re: [B7L] Elements
Re: [B7L] sally photos
[B7L] Together Again Tapes
[B7L] Phoenix, and thanks to Harriet
[B7L] Re: costume exhibit
[B7L] Witching Ways
Re: [B7L] On the espidoe 'Power' (long)
[B7L] Converted Son
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:01:23 +1200
From: Nicola Collie <nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] Nicola's going on holiday!
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Just a quick note to let you all know I'm going to be out of town for a
while, and so will be rather quieter than usual. I'll be back on-line on or
about the 20th. With severe email withdrawal symptoms, I suspect :-)
ttfn, Nicola
---
Nicola Collie
Dunedin, New Zealand
nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
Landing: a controlled mid-air collision with a planet.
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:08:51 +1000
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] sally photos
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Richard wrote
After half an hour or so Sally Knyvette
appears Very VERY cross about people selling photos of her and gets a
trader to tear up some photos in front of her, (I accidentally have my hand
over the only photo on our stand) she then storms off down to the Horizon
shop - I wonder what happened there?
******
Does anyone know anything more about this incident ?
The subject of a photo does not own the rights to that photo any more than
Sally owns the rights to Blake's 7 just because she was in it.
___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977
______________________________________
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:45:19 +1000
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] conventional warfare
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Always keen on a good argument I raise the following -
The Diva wrote
***
And, presumably, made sure that she cleared her use of someone else's
intellectual property?
***
but then goes on
***
Except, of course, that I'm sure we'd all be interested in a public
statement on your use of the Deliverance name in your con publicity for
Redemption.
***
and
***
Again, you are carefully distorting my point which was that you are using
other people's work to publicize your own event
***
Well, I'd just like to point out that Deliverance was the name of a B7
episode, in addition to being an important religious concept. So unless the
Deliverance convention organisers officially licensed the name from the
BBC, or the Pope, they are hardly in a position to criticise someone else
for "use of someone else's intellectual property".
Diva's posting was in response to Kathryn A's complaints about the negative
aspects of the Deliverance convention. Whether an event was run for charity
or profit, a paid-up customer is entitled to complain. And if you know
anything about customer service, you know that it's important to listen to
customer feedback.
With an attitude like this,
***
your review made me angry that people had worked so hard for ingrates like
you
***
Diva should seriously consider occupations where she doesn't have to deal
with customers.
___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977
______________________________________
"The Administration is out to get me"
_______________________________________
"In the end, winning is the only safety"
_________________________________________
"If man is art, can I just go out of here and make an exhibition of myself
?"
________________________________________
Was God an astronaut ?
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634
Anxiety & Panic
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/powerplay.html
Blake's 7 FAQ & free screen savers
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:18:49 +1000
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] blood serum
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Judith wrote
If mutoids lived on blood serum, why was it green?
***
Top Five Reasons Blood Serum Could Be Green
1. It was extracted from up the nose.
2. Lime Spider Serum - makes a change from the usual boring raspberry
3. Environmentally aware bio-degradable serum. Not tested on whales.
4. It was past its use-by date & was growing mouldly
5. It was envious of the blood in the real humans.
___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977
______________________________________
"The Administration is out to get me"
_______________________________________
"In the end, winning is the only safety"
_________________________________________
"If man is art, can I just go out of here and make an exhibition of myself
?"
________________________________________
Was God an astronaut ?
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634
Anxiety & Panic
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/powerplay.html
Blake's 7 FAQ & free screen savers
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:13:49 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] sally photos
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At 19:08 9/04/98 +1000, Roger the Shrubber wrote:
>Does anyone know anything more about this incident ?
>The subject of a photo does not own the rights to that photo any more than
>Sally owns the rights to Blake's 7 just because she was in it.
>
...depends on local law...
...in Australia at least, if you take a photo of someone, you do need their
permission before you can publish it (this of course applies where the
person is the major subject of the photo, rather than just one of 800 other
people who just happened to get in the background of the shot!)
ISTR one of the rock groups were sued over this issue because they included
in one of their videos several seconds footage of someone (a complete
nobody, but the band thought the person would look good in the video) and
did not ask for permission to include this in their rock video.
I suspect that as part of Sally Knyvette's BBC contract, they would have
been permitted to publish photos of her to publicise the show (I can't
imagine the BBC not covering all the legal details), but that would not
necessarily give fan conventions the same rights.
...if you want anything more detailed, you'd need to talk to someone who
did law, rather than just took the occasional passing interest!
--------------------------------------------------------
The Loch Mess Monster
(occaisionally mistaken as Bill Billingsley)
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:20:20 +0100
From: "Borg, Peter: IEG" <peter.borg@barclayscapital.com>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] sally photos
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On the subject of Sally photographs, Bill Billingsley wrote:
> ...in Australia at least, if you take a photo of someone, you do need
> their
> permission before you can publish it (this of course applies where the
> person is the major subject of the photo, rather than just one of 800
> other
> people who just happened to get in the background of the shot!)
>
It could well be similar in the UK, however I think that in this case, the
photo was a publicity shot, although I could be mistaken.
Peter.
--MimeMultipartBoundary--
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 09:07 BST-1
From: lucydennis@cix.compulink.co.uk (Dennis Collin)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Deliverance pros & cons
Message-Id: <memo.129664@cix.compulink.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <01bd630d$9109b8a0$0a4c18cb@waltersmith>
> Kathryn obviously didn't
> think the con was perfect - I fail to see why
> that's an excuse for Diva to attack her
> and Judith so personally and nastily.
> CUT IT OUT, GROW UP, AND LEARN
> TO ACCEPT CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM!
You're missing MY (I'm LUCY, not Diva) point entirely. I challenged some
of Kathryn's criticisms about the con. She has refused to discuss or
defend her opinions. She is using the fact that she feels flamed by
someone else's comments as an excuse not to reply to mine. I don't
believe this is fair, either to myself or to the con. As I've said,
coming in here, making criticisms, then refusing to discuss or defend
them is as bad if not worse than flaming.
By the way, I can appreciate and agree with a lot of other specific
criticisms of the con, the main one being lack of communication. That is
one of those issues that is easy to overlook in the original planning and
then is not always implemented correctly on the day. (Look at any large
scale event). When you're in the middle of trying to solve a problem,
it's difficult to judge at which point you let the general public know
there's a problem. You always hope that it will be sorted out before you
have to.
Lucy
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:05:46 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: On the episode Power
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Helen, admitting to imperfect memory, wrote:
>Um, correct me if I'm wrong (I may well be, I only
>saw the epsiode once), but wasn't this another case
>of Avon kisses the girl to distract her while he uses
>her own weapon-- like with Sarcophagus? He used the
>crystal, which turned body mass into telekinetic
>energy against her--didn't he? I took the "Man being
>stronger" comment to mean this-- once Avon learns it
>works on a body mass principle, the larger person (men
>being usually larger) is stronger.
No. Avon wins by his own brute force. He works out that it takes time to
recharge, so mounts repeated attacks until the "battery" runs down and he
can beat her on his own terms. It's only after he's subdued her physically
that he kisses her. This is typical Hommik behaviour, and it makes me feel
distinctly sick.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:06:10 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Deliverance pros and cons
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Lindley (hullo, dear, sympathies re the cramps) gave some good reasons for
using her own nom de nets, and concluded:
>I think if Diva is going to speak from a specific
>association with the con like that she
>should have the courage to name herself.
Actually - and I hope this isn't taken the wrong way, though it seems a
very faint hope as everything else has been - I'd prefer not to know who
Diva is at this point. Not because I want to avoid her (I assume she's
female) but because, if I were to meet her in real life, I'd feel horribly
embarrassed in present circs.
I do hope this has run its course. It appears to me that all the con
reports had one thing in common - the writers enjoyed Deliverance, for one
reason or another. And most of the criticism was constructively aimed -
praise be, there will be further cons, and the organisers need advice on
how to do the best they can. My principal advice would be "if you're using
a ticketing system, advertise it in large letters in as many conspicuous
places as possible".
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:02:21 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Phoenix, Witching Ways
Message-ID: <199804091702.NAA05967@yfn.ysu.edu>
This ISP has been acting up, eating mail and not always letting
me connect. This is a belated catch-up.
Sarah Thompson wrote:
>Narrelle, I'm delighted to hear that Phoenix 4 is done. I hope no one will
>want to see me during my office hours tomorrow, so that I can go web
>crawling instead.
Phoenix 4 is wonderful! (Thanks, Narrelle. And thanks to Pat for
encouraging her.) Each and every character (and Narrelle juggles
a clutter of them!) is presented with love and respect. There's
also plenty of plot twisted in with the character dynamics and
human interest. It provides a satisfying, long-awaited resolution
to the Phoenix saga.
Oh yes, almost forgot, Phoenix 4 Tarrant is absolutely adorable. :)
>And tell us more about your book, please. Is this a pro novel? If so, has
>it been published yet? Is it SF? Fantasy? Something else? And what,
>exactly, is the prize that it's up for? This all sounds very exciting.
Yes, congratulations, Narrelle.
Carol McCoy
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:09:13 +0100
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] sally photos
Message-ID: <oVLKUGApIIL1EwwV@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <199804090551.PAA02667@budapest.ozonline.com.au>, Roger The
Shrubber <darrenro@ozonline.com.au> writes
>******
>Does anyone know anything more about this incident ?
>The subject of a photo does not own the rights to that photo any more than
>Sally owns the rights to Blake's 7 just because she was in it.
However, she may either own the copyright to the photo itself, or know
who does. If there were any copies of her own publicity photos involved,
then that's almost certainly the case. The image in a photograph will
normally be copyright to the photographer, or to whoever the
photographer has sold the rights to.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:23:51 +0200
From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" <jeroenkw@gns.getronics.nl>
To: Don Trower <gammablue@hotmail.com>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Oracnix
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Don Trower wrote:
>
> Brilliant !
>
> I spoke to PeterT at Stoke about his voice being so good for Orac / Zen.
> I told him that I used a couple of Orac/Zen WAVs for system error
> information messages on the computer system I use here, that went down
> well. Thank heavens I don't have Jenna pop up bit maps !
>
> Don.
>
I wish I had been there. I just loved the cool voice of Zen! That's what
got me hooked as a 10-12 year old in the first place.
Needless to say that Zen speaks to me when I start windows and talks
when it crashes :) (at home and work) "All systems are working
perfectly"
I once wanted to sample all letters of his voice and make a program that
would say Zen like things but at the time the harddisks were not that
big and very costly! (wow what a line!)
Now I just watch the tapes again .... and again
Jeroen
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 20:21:48 +0000
From: Katharine Woods <kjw@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] Deliverance photos
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Right, assuming that everyone's had a chance to knyvette (neologism?
what's that then?) the appearance of photos on the web, here at long
last is the URL:
http://www.whitecrow.demon.co.uk/b7/
Enjoy!
By the way, all responsibility for the photos and their presence on the
web is Stephen's (steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk) not mine. I'm just the
messenger.
Hoping that this makes up for still not having done a con report (truly,
madly, deeply I will soon.)
Katharine (Woods)
Kat W.
kjw@whitecrow.demon.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:01:20 +0100
From: "Julie Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Elements
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Jusith said (of Elements) :-
> All in all, I recommend this tape highly, especially if you want to hear
Paul
> and Jackie together.
>
> It's available from Sheelagh Wells and from Horizon. I don't know the
price,
> but I expect you'll find it on Horizon's web page. I'll put Sheelagh's
price on
> my page when I know it.
>
I have just finished listening to the two latest tapes in this series
(Kingmaker and Elements)
which I bought from Sheelagh's stall at Deliverance, and I could not agree
more with Judith's recommendation.
In particular the second side of Elements which featured Jackie and Paul is
superb and I would urge anyone to buy it. With the previous tapes, while
enjoyable, I must admit after a while some of the stories got a bit samey.
But these tapes were fresh, entertaining and very, very funny.
Well done Sheelagh and Joe.
Julie Horner
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:14:59 +0100
From: JMR <jager@clara.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] sally photos
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At 19:08 09/04/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Richard wrote
>After half an hour or so Sally Knyvette
>appears Very VERY cross about people selling photos of her and gets a
>trader to tear up some photos in front of her, (I accidentally have my hand
>over the only photo on our stand) she then storms off down to the Horizon
>shop - I wonder what happened there?
>******
>Does anyone know anything more about this incident ?
>The subject of a photo does not own the rights to that photo any more than
>Sally owns the rights to Blake's 7 just because she was in it.
>
>
>
>
Re: "Deliverance"/Sally Knyvette & Horizon shop
As I understand it, Sally Knyvette, having been made aware that several
dealers were selling photographs of her, went to the Horizon shop and spoke
to Diane Gies. There was a photograph on sale there of Sally (incidentally,
not, as some have suggested, a publicity shot) which she wasn't
particularly keen on, though she made no attempt to stop Horizon selling
it. Diane, of her own volition, chose to tear up the copies of this
photograph since Sally felt that it wasn't a "good" photo. There was
nothing more sinister than that about the incident.
I can't comment on any other incidents, but certainly in this case, it
wasn't a copyright issue, simply that Sally felt the photo in question was
not a particularly good one. She made no request to have the photos
withdrawn or destroyed, but Diane, out of common courtesy, chose to remove
them from sale. End of story.
Judith
J.M. Rolls
jager@clara.net
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:35:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Susan.Moore@uni.edu
To: BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Together Again Tapes
Message-id: <01IVO7AE7UUQ8ZF807@uni.edu>
I know that everyone probably already has this, but for those of you who enjoy
listening to Stephen Greif, DON'T pass up acquiring the Together Again Tape
entitled "Action". It's got Paul, Gareth, Michael, and Stephen talking about a
myriad of topics, but the best part is at the end of the tape when Paul denies
telling Brian Croucher that the part of Travis was going to be recast, Stephen
leans quite close to the microphone and says "Oh yes, he did." Aaaaahhhhhh,
that voice, that tone.
Worth the cost of the tape.
Susan M.
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:16:18 +1000
From: Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris <parallax@wire.net.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Phoenix, and thanks to Harriet
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Thanks for passing my message on to Pat, Harriet. And thanks to those
people who've passed good wishes on to me in turn. :-)
Re Phoenix 4 - I've had an email from someone who only has email access (no
web access). If anyone has trouble with it, if you have a friend with
access to the site I have no objections at all to the zines being
downloaded onto disks and handed about. My only concern would be someone
publishing the stories in a proper zine without permission. Feel free to
print out or to copy onto disks for people who otherwise wouldn't have
access. The point of the story is to be read, after all. :-)
Narrelle
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tim Richards and Narrelle Harris
parallax@wire.net.au http://www.wire.net.au/~parallax
"Look, he's winding up the watch of his wit;
by and by it will strike." - Shakespeare
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 01:49:00 GMT
From: s.thompson8@genie.geis.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: costume exhibit
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Mary O'Connor added still more to our collective knowledge of the costumes,
and also said:
>Being in the fancy dress, and having the long wait, I noticed how
>very patient the MC, Gary Russell, was with everyone making changes to what
>he was to say. (But then again, we did have alot of time to perfect
>what we were to do) Gary was polite and calm long after I would
>have been screaming. He leant a professional edge to the main events.
He was very good indeed-- hope someone will pass on our compliments to him.
I was interested, but not surprised, to learn from Una's post that he =is= a
professional. How did he wind up doing Deliverance?
>And wasn't it great! Everywhere, every line-up, I could talk to
>someone about Blakes 7. Not an easy thing for me to do at other
>cons I have attended. When Deliverance wasn't ready to start
>on Friday, I sat down with two strangers and had a great time
>chatting. I have a whole lot more friends now.
Yes, that was one of the things I most enjoyed too. Having gotten into the
fandom relatively late, I had never been to an all-B7 con before. I kept
looking around that big room at all the people and thinking to myself "I
wonder how many of them are B7 fans?"-- and then remembering that they =all=
were! A very pleasant feeling.
>Friends, co-workers, all think I was nuts spending all that money
>to travel from Canada to England and stay in a hotel all weekend.
>But I think it was money well spent. Wish I could afford Redemption.
I have no idea whether I'll be able to go to Redemption or not, but it's
much higher on my list of priorities now. I'll make an effort to go if I
possibly can, precisely because I had so much fun at Deliverance.
On a completely different topic, Calle said:
>It isn't hard to have the list make sure every reply goes to the list,
>no, but it's IMO wrong to do so. Sending something that should have
>been public as a private mail doesn't have any consequences beyond a
>small annoyance, and it can be trivially fixed by resending the
>message. Sending something that should have been private to the public
>list can potentially be disastrous for the involved parties, and it
>*can't* be fixed *at all*. Therefore, any list administered by me will
>be set up to avoid the second type of mistake as far as possible.
Thanks, Calle. So far I have managed to avoid sending a private message to
the list by mistake, but I'm sure it's something many of us have nightmares
about (I once =thought= I had done it, and had inadvertantly sent hundreds
of people the url of what was supposed to be a private web site, and was
greatly relieved to find out that I hadn't after all). So I for one am very
glad you have made this your policy.
Oh, and Judith R., thanks for the info on the contributors to the exhibit.
Sarah Thompson
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:17:54 +1000
From: Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris <parallax@wire.net.au>
To: s.thompson8@genie.geis.com
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Witching Ways
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Thanks for the nice comments Sarah. The novel, Witching Ways, is an
unpublished pro novel. The George Turner Award (in tribute to the late,
great Australian SF writer George Turner) is open to any unpublished SF or
fantasy novels, by pro writers or first timers like myself.
The prize is a big fat advance and publication, though the entry rules
state that the best runners up may also be published. Being one of nine
considered, I am in with a fair chance of publication, which would be lovely!
Then you can all buy it to read the B7 avatars and help send my on my way
to professional authordom. :-)
In the meantime, I hope you enjoy Phoenix 4
Narrelle
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parallax@wire.net.au http://www.wire.net.au/~parallax
"Look, he's winding up the watch of his wit;
by and by it will strike." - Shakespeare
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:35:23 GMT
From: kawm@dove.mtx.net.au (Ken Minne)
To: "B7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] On the espidoe 'Power' (long)
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Good day all,
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:47:21 +0930, Lindley wrote:
>Do you know, the first discussion I *ever*
>got involved with on this list was one of the
>semi-regular "is Power sexist" ones?
>Ah, sweet nostalgia.
>
>
Just a little bit of history repeating itself, as Ms Bassey might
sing, >;-)
Rather than waste anymore brain power trying to come up with a logical
and credible answer to any of the Lindley's PC Post, I've decided to
go directly to the flame bait. >;-)
1. Would there have been this much angst over the episode if the Seska
were using a gun instead of their Necklaces? It seems unacceptable for
the Seska to be disarmed, but in the real world, it is happening al
the time.
2. Who amongst the Seska do the feminists identify?
Pella, who decieved Dorian and killed the one other remaining
Seska?
Kate, who was lead so completely up the garden path?
3. We know Pella was a liar and a cheat, Why should we trust anything
she said?
4. What was so important Pella had to murder Cato to conceal?
Popping open a box of marshmellows,
Catch you later,
Walter Minne
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:22:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay McGuigan <dsv2@yahoo.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Converted Son
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After months of trying to get my 9 year old son to sit down and watch
Blake's 7, I've finally succeeded!! And, of course, he loves it. It
took him a while to settle in and watch it, he more used to watching
cartoons on Nickelodeon. He watched Aftermath, part of Powerplay and
Sarcophagus. I have them on one heavily edited tape, but I thought
they would be good episodes for a first timer. He surprised me by
really settling down and watching Sarcophagus, that's when he really
got interested. He wants to spend the rest of Spring Break watching
the other tapes.
Also, something else to make a mother proud, he likes Avon best!!!!
Can he become a Little ASS?? Followed by Dayna (actually it was the
bow and arrow).
Now if I can use this as leverage to go to Redemption. It's his
birthday that weekend, wouldn't that be a nice birthday present!!!! <g>
Jay
100% Avon
Retainer of Avon's Leathers
B7 Novice Writer's Group
http://members.aol.com/DCsquared/mainframe.html
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