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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 229
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Teeth, and sharp ones too!
[B7L] Glad to Be Back!
[B7L] Teeth, and sharp ones too!
[B7L] Hopes for Narelle's book
[B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
[B7L] Acorn User
Re: [B7L] Watching B7
Re: [B7L] Glad to Be Back!
Re: [B7L] Glad to Be Back!
[B7L] The Crucible
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:48:52 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Teeth, and sharp ones too!
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Hello.
>'ere, that seems hardly fair. To the sharks ;)
>ttfn, Nicola
<mock outrage> Nicola! Thank you very much!
Regards (or maybe not <smile>)
Joanne
It is far cheaper and just as rewarding to *pretend* you're utterly
depraved.
--Kaz Cooke, The Little Book of Crap.
PS Can I help you yell at Avon? It might prove to be therapeutic.
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:23:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: "G. Robbins" <robbins@graceland.edu>
To: B7 Main List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Glad to Be Back!
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Just wanted to say, I am back and I'm here to stay! That is, until the
end of this school year. On the note of Blake's 7, however, my IPTV
station is now rebroadcasting the entire series from beginning to end, so
now I will get to see the eps I missed the first time! Yahoo! I'm up to
Mission to Destiny which will be shown here midnight Friday....anybody got
any tidbits on the good stuff to look for?
-Grace Robbins
http://www.graceland.edu/~robbins
robbins@inet-ux.graceland.edu
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:29:14 +1200
From: Nicola Collie <nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Teeth, and sharp ones too!
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me, on punishment for Tarrant-baiters:
>>'ere, that seems hardly fair. To the sharks ;)
>>ttfn, Nicola
Joanne:
><mock outrage> Nicola! Thank you very much!
You're welcome <grin>
>PS Can I help you yell at Avon? It might prove to be therapeutic.
Sure, you can take over when I run out of creative insults, and I'll do the
same for you. Tag-team berating ;). Although you might want to leave once
his "punishment" reaches Phase 2. P'raps Vila will be wanting a refill by
then ;)
ttfn, Nicola
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"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV."
61 sleeps!
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:55:37 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Hopes for Narelle's book
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Hello, especially to Narelle. Just something I forgot to mention
earlier.
Could I suggest that when whichever publishing company produces your
book, Narelle, that you stand over them until they give you a decent
cover for it? Hopefully you'll get some say in the matter <crossing
fingers>.
We all know the saying about not judging books by their covers, but I
saw the George Turner prize winner in my local Dymocks branch yesterday,
and its cover suggests air-headed nonsense. Having enjoyed the Phoenix
series, I should hate to find its creator's first professional effort
bound up in a terrible cover that has to be hidden away, however much I
enjoyed the contents.
Regards
Joanne
I was born modest - not all over, but in spots.
--Mark Twain
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:00:42 EDT
From: SuzanThoms@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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>>Harriet wrote:
>>Oddly enough, this is the only episode (Powerplay) in which I like Tarrant.
>>There's a pleasing moral ambiguity about him.
I agree with this. I really liked Tarrant when I first saw him in
"Powerplay." He was a good match for Avon and it was obvious Avon had a great
deal of respect for him in this ep. But as the series progressed he lost that
"hard edge" he displayed in the beginning and Avon no longer treated him as an
equal. Tarrant's honesty, morality, and good-heartedness may be admirable
qualites, but where within the hostile, violent B7 universe would those
attributes be appeciated?
Avon and Tarrant are my favorites because I DO like the way they work together
(especially 4th season), but I can't help think it would have been a better
pairing if Tarrant had kept that little bit of "sinister" he had in the
beginning.
It would have made "Sand" more entertaining (for me, anyway). I would have
preferred Servalan not to have been quite so sure of her postion (she KNEW
Tarrant wouldn't kill her). If the Tarrant from "Powerplay" had been with her
she wouldn't have been quite so confident.
>(He even looks OK in Federation black, rather than the coloured clothing he
>adopted afterwards.)
Tarrant in the black Fed uniform and Avon in the flight suit from "Warlord" --
<sigh> these are my favorite looks for my two favorite guys. Second
fave...Avon in black silk shirt in "Aftermath." He also looks great in the
black outfit from "Voices from the Past"--
Carol McCoy wrote that Tarrant DID have salvage rights in "Aftermath" -- not
so. As long as Avon was still in control of <and in touch with> ZEN, the ship
was still his. In fact, they wouldn't have been able to dock if Avon hadn't
allowed it. There was no salvage to be had. However, I don't believe Tarrant
ever wanted the ship. But if he had, he would have found it more difficult to
take it away from Avon than Carol McCoy indicates. For one thing, despite
everything, and when all is said and done, the crew would have supported Avon.
Suzanne
Proud Avon fan
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:00:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Acorn User
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Liberator made it onto the front cover of the October issue of Acorn User and
there's a four page Blake's 7 related article inside.
It's essentially a spin off from 'Lost in Space'. The magazine's editor
spotted my Acorn computer while watching the programme and asked if I was
interested in writing an article. I hadn't expected to make the front cover
though! I think Geoff Saul's beautiful Liberator art helped account for that.
(It's unattributed in the article, but see the 'gallery' on my web page to see
who drew it and who constructed the mesh) The unattributed pictures of Jenna
and Servalan in the actual article are by Kathryn Andersen. (I sent him a load
of pictures by various artists, but being a bloke, he passed over all the Avon
and Blake pics and went for those of the women. I do wish he'd credited the
artists - I took care to make sure he knew who had drawn things, but I guess
magazines rarely credit art.)
It was quite an interesting exercise getting as much Blake's 7 as possible into
an article that had to focus mainly on my computers and how I used them in
furtherence of fandom. I had an entertaining time picking out lots of favourite
quotes from the series to use as sub headings.
I wonder if we'll get any new list members as a result.
Judith
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:22:08 +0100
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Watching B7
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In message <000e01bdd784$101f8d00$773363c3@smith99>, Heather Smith
<Heather.Smith@btinternet.com> writes
>Umm, I seem to recall that in the scene where Vila goes to help the others
>in the basement, his longing look at the bottle of wine was cut. Think
>there's more, but I can't remember the rest (it's getting late, and in a
>Vilaish line, wine is clouding my mind slightly).
Also the scene in the basement after Dorian dies. The original has a pan
around from Dayna (who's leaning over the "monster") to the rest of the
crew, and Soolin is standing behind them. She looks carefully at them
while they're still distracted, and creeps up the stairs without anyone
noticing. The official video has a cut from Dayna to the group with
Soolin already missing - you lose that sense of Soolin sneaking away
before they remember she's there, so it changes the character dynamics
slightly, and doesn't tie in as well with the following episode.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:39:08 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Glad to Be Back!
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On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 08:23:32PM -0500, G. Robbins wrote:
> now I will get to see the eps I missed the first time! Yahoo! I'm up to
> Mission to Destiny which will be shown here midnight Friday....anybody got
> any tidbits on the good stuff to look for?
Well, these are some of my favourite bits...
Cally: Remember that Avon and I will be staying.
We will regard ourselves as hostages against Blake's return.
Avon: Well, thank you, Cally. What a clever idea.
Cally (telepathing): Blake will return.
Avon: You can bet your life on it.
In fact, you've just bet both our lives on it.
and
Cally: We must help these people.
Avon: Must we? Personally, I don't care if their whole planet turns into
a mushroom. I shall stay because I don't like an unsolved mystery.
(Blake's 7: Mission To Destiny [A7])
And basically I liked the mystery -- which means I hope you haven't
read the script, cuz then you know who did it already.
Kathryn Andersen
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shores of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tenhauser Gate.
All these moments will be lost in time - like - tears - in rain.
Time - to die."
-- Roy Batty (Bladerunner)
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 18:07:42 -0400
From: Ann Reckner <areckner@ivyproductions.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Glad to Be Back!
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Kathryn Andersen wrote (re: Mission to Destiny):
Well, these are some of my favourite bits...
Cally: Remember that Avon and I will be staying.
We will regard ourselves as hostages against Blake's return.
Avon: Well, thank you, Cally. What a clever idea.
Cally (telepathing): Blake will return.
Avon: You can bet your life on it.
In fact, you've just bet both our lives on it.
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As I recall, "Mission to Destiny" was one of the few eps that shows
Cally telepathing. In later shows, the telepathy didn't appear very
often (except for its apparent effect of making Cally highly susceptible
to alien mind control). In addition to the scene that Kathryn mentioned,
I love the bit in "Mission to Destiny" where Cally is half-incapacitated
by the sleeping vapor and when Blake (I think?) shakes her by the
shoulder to revive her, she telepaths a kind of moan, "Alone..."
Ann R.
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 20:23:32 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] The Crucible
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Any more for The Crucible in Bromley on Saturday 19 Sept?
So far we have Steve, Paula, Tom, Louise, Anne, Linda and me.
As Steve and Paula had booked before I started collecting names, we're unlikely
to get enough for a discount unless we get another 5, but I can book us tickets
in a block of seats as long as we all go for the 17 pound tickets (which we all
have so far)
We'll be meeting up before the show but haven't quite decided where.
Paula - do you know the name of the pub Anne suggested? She said it was
Fuller's pub on the corner of High Street and Chruch Rd.
Or do you know a better pub? I'm easy as long as you pick one with a low
background noise level. I still have voice problems now and then, so I can't
talk over a lot of noise.
Anne reminds me that there is a pre-performance chat by members of the company
(though you can't be sure which ones) on Wednesday which is free to people who
have tickets for any performance. You have to request this when booking, so,
while I'm collecting bookings, does anyone want me to request a ticket for the
Wednesday chat (6.15 - 6.45)?
Judith
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http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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