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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 290
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Blake vs Sheridan
[B7L] Re: Hostage
[B7L] Sevenfold Crown tape, with bloodstains
Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
[B7L] Voyager
Re: [B7L] vila's locks
RE: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] vila's locks
Re: [B7L] Re: Hostage
Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Re: Hostage
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:12:46 +0000
From: Frank Roach <franroche@uswest.net>
To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Blake vs Sheridan
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This is my first post on this list. As a fan of both series, I find
this comparison of Blake and Sheridan very interesting.
It would be interesting to think what Blake would have been able to do
if he had the resources available to him that Sheridan has. Certainly
Blake never hasd allies as powerful as either the Vorlans or the
Minbari!
Frando
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:02:19 -0500
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Hostage
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Pat F wrote:
>Penny you are not alone in your liking for 'Hostage'.
No, she isn't. Apart from points mentioned, I like the sense of Avon
carefully trying to avoid all the pitfalls of Horizon in advance, and
falling into worse ones as a consequence, eg:
Stop Blake going down to planet by arranging for Federation to be waiting.
Foiled when Servalan decides to come herself, which takes too long.
Go down to planet early on to rescue Blake before he (and everyone else)
gets captured. Foiled when Avon gets captured.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:09:05 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Sevenfold Crown tape, with bloodstains
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Hello all, and Kiersten (who did warn me <grin>)
Well, now I have my very own copy of the tape, but I've yet to listen to
it all - I decided the bus between Town Hall and Gladesville wasn't the
best situation to listen to it <wince>. So I'll certainly try this
afternoon, on the way home for the weekend - two hours by train between
Epping and Newcastle should be long enough for me to gain an idea of
whether or not it was worth it!
One thing, though: I had a brief listen to the interviews at the end of
the tape and heard something that makes me worry about my ears.
Jacqueline Pearce's voice. I did hear that it had changed somewhat, and
the reason for it; but I'm damn glad I was told it was her, because I
thought it was Lynda Bellingham (Vena in Headhunter, for those who've
forgotten) just for a moment. Very strange <puzzlement>
Carol, whose bloodstains are those? Not mine, I hope <grovel> Between
fifitrix having cornered the market in horses' heads and Jenni carrying
on like the very late Kara in "Cygnus Alpha", I think I've enough to
worry about <grin> Good thing, Gail, that you've decided to reconsider
the Toothy One, as unfortunate things happen to those the Godmother
keeps her beady eyes on!
Regards
Joanne
I was born modest - not all over, but in spots.
--Mark Twain
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:24:17 +1000
From: "David Henderson" <David.Henderson@jcu.edu.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Calle intoned;
>"Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net> writes:
>
>> Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series.
>
>No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final
>five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you.
Not unless I find him first...
Oz is only a few episodes into season 5.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:37:09 -0000
From: "Sarah Beecham" <sarah@beecham.demon.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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> From: Iain Coleman <ijc@mail.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
> To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
> Date: 19 November 1998 16:32
> I've never found it to be a good idea to watch Voyager at all.
>
> Iain
>
::delurks briefly::
Voyager? Wasn't that the holographic lungs program?
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:15:49 -0600 (EST)
From: Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Voyager
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> ::delurks briefly::
>
> Voyager? Wasn't that the holographic lungs program?
*ding*
it's also the program with the evil lettuce headed guys, Busty of Borg,
and Leo DaVinci beams down to a planet .
i know i have a sad life when i realize this is how i spend my saturday
nights, and we have no PBS. *smirk*
tegan (*)
tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan
"Personally, I don't care if their whole planet turns into a mushroom.
I shall stay because I don't like an unsolved mystery."
-- Avon, Mission to Destiny (A7)
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:19:41 +0000 (GMT)
From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] vila's locks
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Roger the Shrubber said:
>Allison wrote:
>> In fact, I can't think of a lock that stopped him(I'm probably wrong).
>
>Dorian's security door on Xenon seemed to stump Vila, but then Dorian got
>killed, so either Soolin or Vila must have opened it later (or Avon got
>around the programming ...)
Having realized that we weren't talking about Vila's hair - Vila couldn't
open the lock on the London.
Una
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:04:47 +1030
From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
To: "'Reuben'" <reuben@reuben.net>
Cc: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reuben [SMTP:reuben@reuben.net]
> Sent: Friday, 20 November 1998 1:22
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> Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
>
>
>
>
> There is one other similarity.
> JMS (Babylon 5) has usurped Terry Nation (Blakes 7) for the record of most
> consecutive episodes written.
>
> Martin
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:57:16 EST
From: AChevron@aol.com
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In a message dated 11/19/98 1:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ShilLance@aol.com writes:
<< LOL!!!! :-) Though it would probaly end with Janeway, 7 of 9 and Voyager
wiping the floor with Sheridan, Garibaldi, Blake and Avon. >>
Sheridan and Blake might fall, but Garibaldi by himself could take those two!
Avon would just invent an ....entertaining way of finishing them. Ooops, those
dirty little pictures are bubbling in my head again.......... D. Rose
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:16:57 PST
From: "Don Trower" <gammablue@hotmail.com>
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>Vila couldn't open the lock on the London.
>Said Una
Just because he said he couldn't unpick the lock on the London does not
mean that he couldn't if he wanted to. If he thought his life would be
as risk as a result of opening a locked door he wouldn't do it.
In one of the earlier episodes he and Blake are raiding a Fed out post,
Vila says "There isn't a lock I can't crack if I have to" or something
like that, there is a security robot approaching at the time.
Another point about the robots on guard there, although they react to
the intruder's presence with flame units etc. they do not contact the
human security forces on the outpost. Are the robots programed to just
deal with these problems, like wild animals straying onto the site. Or
is there a profesional robotic pride at work here.
Don.
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:31:42 GMT
From: mjsmith@tcd.ie (Murray)
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Dear Harriet,
I also find 'Hostage' interesting, in that Blake's rescue plan was
incompetent. In order to rescue Inga, he walked up an escarpment, in thin
air, in full view of Travis and his followers, who would be rested and
waiting for him. Did he not even think of using the teleport?
Murray
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:01:09 -0600
From: "Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net>
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Henderson <David.Henderson@jcu.edu.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS
>Calle intoned;
>
>>"Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net> writes:
>>
>>> Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series.
>>
>>No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final
>>five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you.
>
>
>Not unless I find him first...
>
>Oz is only a few episodes into season 5.
I'm not going to post any spoilers. Gee, at least put a smiley behind those
statements, I'm getting scared here. :-)
Reuben
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:34:00 -0600
From: "Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Beecham <sarah@beecham.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
>> From: Iain Coleman <ijc@mail.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
>> To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>> Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
>> Date: 19 November 1998 16:32
>> I've never found it to be a good idea to watch Voyager at all.
>>
I don't quite get it. I love Star Trek, but I just can't like Voyager.
Every few months I sit down and watch an episode after convincing myself
that maybe I'm just being silly and have only seen bad episodes, but I
always come away shaking my head. I really think the only reason people
think it got good is 7 of 9. (hey Jeri Ryan is single again!)
Reuben
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:59:52 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@mail.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Just adding my voice to the closet Hostage-fans. For all its faults, there
is a lot of good stuff in this one. Croucher has nice moments, especially
his "I understand shame very well" conversation with Blake, and the
episode also contains one of my favourite Blake-Avon exchanges:
AVON: I still say it is an unacceptable risk.
BLAKE: It is not unacceptable because I accept it!
You just can't argue with logic like that.
Iain
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:50:50 +0000
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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In message <000b01be149b$3485c160$660114ac@misnt.tursso.com>, Reuben
<reuben@reuben.net> writes
>I don't quite get it. I love Star Trek, but I just can't like Voyager.
>Every few months I sit down and watch an episode after convincing myself
>that maybe I'm just being silly and have only seen bad episodes, but I
>always come away shaking my head. I really think the only reason people
>think it got good is 7 of 9. (hey Jeri Ryan is single again!)
There *are* good episodes, really. I've seen at least one...
More seriously - yes, I have seen good episodes, but the 90% law is more
like 99.9% when applied to Voyager. It simply isn't worth the time you
waste sitting through the bad episodes for the amount of pleasure to be
gained on finding a good one.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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