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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 291
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Vila's Locks
[B7L] Re: Voyager and B7
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Blake vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Vila's Locks
Re: [B7L] Vila's Locks
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
FW: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
[B7L] Star Cops
[B7L] UK Gold December
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Date: 20 Nov 1998 17:02:11 -0800
From: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Vila's Locks
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>Una wrote:
>Vila couldn't open the lock on the London.
As I recall Vila didn't even know what kind of lock it was. Avon had to explain
it to them.
Jim
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:47:49 -0500
From: cm or hg <cmhm@bellsouth.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7
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> Hey, whats so bad about Voyager? Yes there are some bad episodes but a think the
> good ones outweigh the bad! Besides, when you only have funniest video shows,
> sitcoms, and news/gossip/documentary shows to watch, it doesn't take much to be
> worth watching:) (not including The X Files of course). But actually the
> discussions regarding B7/B5/Voyager characters meeting up with one another
> stimulated this delurking. The conversation about 7 of 9 and Janeway beating up
> on the guys got me thinking about similarities between characters and I came up
> with these:
Avon and 7 of 9 - intelligent, sexy, pragmatic, logical, cynical etc.
Blake and Janeway - moralistic, determined, bossy (I bet that will start trouble:)
Orac and The Doctor - "computers" with an attitude, opinionated, always right - I
could
imagine those going at it non stop!
Vila and any attractive passive female character on the Holodeck - (bet I'll get
in
trouble for that too)
Tarrant and Torres (female engineer) - impulsive, reckless at times, confident,
Callie and Chakotay - spiritual, mystical, both were "rebels" at one time
Zen and Tubak (the Vulcan) - monotone, logical, accepting, makes you think of
philosophy
Dayna and Lt Paris (the Pilot) - can imagine them playing Captain Proton games on
the Holodeck
Gan and Neelix - now, now there is no / in there - I just mean both characters
seem to be
peaceful and get along with just about anyone:)
What do you all think - or have I just been watching Voyager too much:)
Heather
from warm, sunny, Florida (who fortunately doesn't have to watch all those
terrible TV shows I mentioned earlier).
cmhm@bellsouth.net
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:22:58 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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Reuben wrote:
> Actually I'll just post one speculation. The final episode is all about the
> crew teaming up with the Season Two Blake's 7 cast and hunting down the
> entire crew of the Voyger.
>
> Well, that's what I'd like to see.
hahahahahahaha
A recent tv blurb trumpeted the 200th episode of Voyager. ack! gag!
Why is it that such a fizzle of a show gets 4 times the episodes of a
well-written drama like Blakes 7?
And it's not dead yet! Oh Reuben, please get Ripley to hunt down Janeway
and put the Starfleet Queen out of our misery.
Pat P
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:30:52 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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ShilLance@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/19/98 11:17:09 AM EST, reuben@reuben.net writes:
>
> << Actually I'll just post one speculation. The final episode is all about
> the
> crew teaming up with the Season Two Blake's 7 cast and hunting down the
> entire crew of the Voyger. >>
>
> LOL!!!! :-) Though it would probaly end with Janeway, 7 of 9 and Voyager
> wiping the floor with Sheridan, Garibaldi, Blake and Avon. There's just no
> real competition for those two ladies!!!!!!!
hahaha This idea would make good crossover universe fanfic.
plot: Janeway and Avon get marooned on a mining planet.
better: Avon, Orac and 7 of 9 get marooned on a derelict Borg ship.
best yet: Garibaldi, Blake and 7 of 9 get marooned on a pleasure planet.
(the blind leading the blind :-D )
outta orbit: Blake, Sheridan and Janeway get really drunk on soma &
Klingon blood wine (Vila named this drink a "Quiet Riot" and won second
place for the recipe in the annual Better Krocked party drinks book) and
drag race Liberator, Voyager and White Star thru the Delta Quadrant.
OK you scientific types on the list: which ship is the fastest? And
prove it by canon.
Pat P
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:48:42 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake vs Sheridan
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Frank Roach wrote:
Hi Frando, welcome to rebel anarchy
> It would be interesting to think what Blake would have been able to do
> if he had the resources available to him that Sheridan has. Certainly
> Blake never hasd allies as powerful as either the Vorlans or the
> Minbari!
How fun it would be to sic the holier-than-thou Mimbari on satanic
Servalan.
Cally would have an interesting time of it dealing with telepaths from a
variety of races.
How fun it would be to watch Cally bring down Bester.
Could Orac get inside the Vorlan technology and mind meld?
Could the kairopan eating bugs on Kairos wrestle down the spider-like
Shadows?
Would Tarrant see the Narns as raw material to cook up some green turtle
soup?
Only the fanfic writer knows for sure!
Pat P
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:26:57 -0000
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila's Locks
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> >Una wrote:
> >Vila couldn't open the lock on the London.
>
> As I recall Vila didn't even know what kind of lock it was. Avon had to
explain
> it to them.
>
> Jim
Which leaves us with a dilemma. What Jim says is right, but it doesn't make
sense, in the light of what we know about Vila.
I can think of two possible explanations:
- Vila pretended not to be able to do it, because he didn't think the
mutiny had a chance, but he was too scared to say so
- Vila was a secret agent of some kind involved in a very deep plot to
unite Blake with the Liberator and for this reason it was important the
mutiny was slow to get going and ultimately unsuccessful
The same two explanations apply to 'Vila dropping the gun' which otherwise
is too ridiculous for words IMHO.
I know the first explanation is more likely in a way but I much prefer the
second. I know there have been stories written to the effect that the whole
thing was a set up. I quite like the idea that B7 is a bit like an iceberg,
there was a big plot going on of which we see only the small amount that is
revealed above the surface.
Alison
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:47:50 EST
From: AChevron@aol.com
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In a message dated 98-11-21 03:32:04 EST, you write:
<< can think of two possible explanations:
- Vila pretended not to be able to do it, because he didn't think the
mutiny had a chance, but he was too scared to say so
- Vila was a secret agent of some kind involved in a very deep plot to
unite Blake with the Liberator and for this reason it was important the
mutiny was slow to get going and ultimately unsuccessful >>
A third explanation is that he was pretending ignorance in order to draw
Avon out. At this point, Blake was just meeting his fellow inmates, and Vila
had no reason to believe that Blake would make a serious attempt to escape.
For someone who is scared, he is amazingly cheeky with Avon. True, this isn't
4th season Avon, but why would Vila risk antagonizing someone unessacarily at
the beginning of an 8 month trip?
Assuming this is a valid theory, the next question would be if Vila acted
on his own, or was in some sort of partnership with Avon at this stage. Like
the other theories, there's just not enough canon evidence, and like the Vila
as agent theories, I've seen stories featuring some prior relationship between
the two.
Now, who has theories 4-9?:-) D. Rose
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:39:03 -0600 (EST)
From: Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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> hahahahahahaha
> A recent tv blurb trumpeted the 200th episode of Voyager. ack! gag!
eek! that would mean we would have twice as many whiny episodes of them
screwing up getting to the alpha quadrant. it's the 100th episode this
week.
> Why is it that such a fizzle of a show gets 4 times the episodes of a
> well-written drama like Blakes 7?
because it's star trek and if it's star trek it must be good...
(this is the rational, not the reality.)
> And it's not dead yet! Oh Reuben, please get Ripley to hunt down Janeway
> and put the Starfleet Queen out of our misery.
from what i hear, you only have to wait a couple more years and it'll be
done anyway... Kate Mulgrew wants to go back to the stage by 2000.
tegan (*)
tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan
To see a world in a grain of sand
And heaven in a wild flower
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand
And eternity in an hour
- William Blake
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 05:57:54 +1030
From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> There is one other similarity.
> JMS (Babylon 5) has usurped Terry Nation (Blakes 7) for the record of most
> consecutive episodes written.
>
> Martin
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:16:30 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Star Cops
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Does anyone have any photos from Chris Boucher's series 'Star Cops'?
I'm publishing 'An Instinct for Murder' and I need reference photos for
artists if anyone has any. I'd particularly like to borrow a good photo of
David Calder as Nathan Spring.
If anyone is willing to sell a photo, even better as I'd like to have one
myself.
Please contact me off-list if you have anything as I'm currently unsubscribed
due to a large backlog of work. I'll probably be back on the list in a week or
two with luck.
Judith
PS. For those who don't know, Chris Boucher was script editor for the
entire series of Blake's 7 and wrote many of the best episodes including
'Rumours of Death' and 'Blake'. The main reason I'm publishing 'An Instinct for
Murder' is because it's a cracking good SF novel in its own right and requires
no knowledge of the series that spawned it.
PPS. There is a chance that Gareth may be back at the FAB cafe in Manchester
sometime over Xmas, but nothing is certain - it was only a possibility when I
last spoke to him. He's been asked, but doesn't yet know if he'll be able to
go.
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:13:06 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] UK Gold December
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According to Cult Times, these are the B7 episodes being shown on UK
Gold in December. The scheduling gets stranger and stranger.
Saturday 5th, 2.05am: A1 The Way Back (yes, I do mean late Friday night)
Sunday 6th, 7.50am: C1 Aftermath
Sunday 13th, 7.35am: C2 Powerplay
Saturday 18th, 1.25am: A2 Space Fall (again, Friday night)
Sunday 20th, 7.35am: C3 Volcano
Sunday 20th, 8.30am: C3 Volcano (again)
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars
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