From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #301 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/301 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 301 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 Re: [B7L] Languages Re: [B7L] Cally's telepathic powers [B7L] Messing around in Sussex [B7L] Gotcha all. [B7L] Redemption Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 [B7L] Horizon Newsflash - 6/12/98 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:10:22 -0000 From: "Fifitrix" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 Message-ID: <01be1fa0$98b0bae0$1b649384@fms01963.unichem.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> << > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?" >> >> << "Having extramarital sex with">> >> >> Is there proof of this? > >Do you expect me to have taken pictures? > Yes. Fifitrix ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:29:53 EST From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Languages Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-29 15:11:35 EST, Judith wrote: << Might underground religious movements in Federation times have kept old languages? Hebrew for example? A 'dead' language actually has some uses. They allow communication in a form that isn't easy to follow. Yes, computers can translate (though with variable accuracy at the present time), but your trooper on the ground isn't going to understand. A language is a focus of identity for many people. I can imagine the Federation trying to stamp out small localised languages simply because they encourage independence. They promote different ways of thought. Some ideas can actually be better expressed in one language than in another. >> I find this very plausible. I could see underground ethnic and religious movements on the outer worlds trying to preserve their languages both as a way to keep their identity and as a code their enemies don't understand. For this purpose, a language has a big advantage over a mathematical or alphabetical code because it is a complex system not based on logic. Thus, it is much harder to crack. computers can translate, but they have to have a database of the original language to work from and even then errors are common. Also, what if the words in the language are themselves code for other things (like the Navajo code-talkers in WW II), in effect a code within a code. Even if the Federation managed to translate the language with no errors, they would still have to crack the inner code. BTW, I have heard that English is one of the hardest languages in the world for non-native speakers to learn because it incorporates elements of so many other languages, has a huge vocabulary, and an extremely inconsistent grammatical structure. My experience with immigrants who arrived in the U.S. speaking no English tends to support this. I'd be happy to discuss this on the spin list. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:10:05 EST From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Cally's telepathic powers Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-12-04 08:41:17 EST, D. Rose wrote: << The telepathy bit with non-Aurons is one reason I think the Auronar are an early break-away colony from Earth, rather than truly alien. the fact that humans such as Vila seem to occasionally "transmit" telepathically seems to indicate that whatever causes telepathy is present in humankind. Presumably a genetic link. The Auron could simply be a group of colonists who were selected for their telepathic potential, and managed to realize it in isolation. The cloning process developed on Auron seems to have triggered the full potential of the genes. >> I agree. It also explains why Tarrant and Avon were susceptible to the plague that Servalan unleashed and why they had the same symptoms the Auronar had. Even in species as closely related as humans and chimps there are often differences in disease susceptibility and the effects a particular disease will have. I tend to think of the Auronar as a subspecies of human, rather like dogs and wolves. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:40:52 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: Space City , Lysator Subject: [B7L] Messing around in Sussex Message-ID: <36681092.7631AEF0@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK here's my report of our day at the place with the long name beginning with H. For those not sure what I am talking about, the BBC was planning to show a Blake's 7 episode as part of its Over the Moon series on its new digital channel BBC Choice in mid-January and it wanted to interview some fans about it to go with the show. The filming was done on Monday and I was there. Fifitrix drove Jenni and I down to this place in Sussex, which used to be the Royal Observatory before it was moved to Greenwich. Despite one wrong turn (due to naff navigating by me - back seat drivers eh), we soon knew we were on the right road when we spotted the large white domed shaped telescope. "Follow that tit," said Jenni, and we did to find it was backed by a number of smaller green tits, including the one astronomer Patrick Moore used to map the moon many years ago. Patrick Moore was there as he was fronting the programme. Fifitrix got him to sign a poster of Neptune, though we thought the five moons or Uranus would have been more apt. The first thing we found out was that the programme wasn't on the early Jan schedule, so we were told late January or early Feb. As we were the first there we got to do our interviews first. Fifitrix was first up on the walkway around one of the green tits, with Jenni and I giggling behind the combined cameraman and interviewer Ralph Lee. Because of a weather change, she was the only one to be filmed in sunshine. I was next, and he asked me about fan fiction and portrayal of relationships in such. "How far do they go?" he asked. "As far as possible," I replied, and refused to be drawn further. Jenni had problems with her bit cos the silver Avon top kept rustling the hidden microphone, but it was finished in the end and we all went back to the canteen for some lunch. Other fans arrived and were taken out for their interviews, including Judith Proctor from these lists. Three Federation trooper outfits arrived and I ended up wearing one as we were filmed patrolling the tits and running across the site to arrest Jenni. Great fun. The rest of the fans were told to keep quiet while they were filming, but we heard you all laugh when we crashed into each other. You trying running around a wet field with restricted vision in boots at least one size too big. Jenni no doubt will post the comment about my swinging arm. Ralph told us the episode they are going to show is The Web, which met with groans from us all and we suggested he pick something else, preferably with Travis and Servalan in as it will give a better feel of the nature of the show, so fingers crossed. Finally bad news. I rang my cable provider today and was told no digital until spring, so I'll miss the show. If anyone is planning on taping it please let me know so I can borrow it. We will try to get a copy to show at Redemption as well. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:59:19 -0000 From: "Dangermouse" To: Subject: [B7L] Gotcha all. Message-Id: <199812042004.UAA09386@gnasher.sol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit \ | / \\ \ | | / // // \\\ \\ // /// /// \\\ #########/// /// ### ### /// -- ## ## -- -- ## squish!! ## -- //## ##\\ // ### ### \\ /// ####### \\\ /// // \\ \\\ // / | | \ \\ / | \ You have just been hit with a snow ball! The first one of the winter. It's the start of..... E-mail Snow Ball Fight 98/99!!!! One rule to this game.... You can't hit someone who has already hit you! Now....go out there and hit as many people as you can before they get you!! Hahahahhahhaha I got you first! and you can't get me back! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:40:39 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Space City Subject: [B7L] Redemption Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I've just been speaking to Gareth Thomas. He recieved confirmation earlier today that he'll be appearing in 'The Hosts of Rebecca' which is on at the same time as Redemption and he will thus be unable to make it to the convention. (He says he'll try and send a video tape to say Hello) We're looking into alternative guests, but it's too soon for us to name any names yet. Judith PS. No, we can't ask Paul, he's in Guards Guards and it would be physically impossible given the distance he already has to travel that weekend. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:08:36 EST From: ShilLance@aol.com To: master@sol.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 Message-ID: <679ca619.36687984@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/3/98 7:25:41 PM EST, master@sol.co.uk writes: << > << > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?" > > << "Having extramarital sex with">> > > Is there proof of this? Do you expect me to have taken pictures? >> If you state a fact, you should be able to verify it. From where do you get your information? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:11:59 +0000 From: JMR To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Horizon Newsflash - 6/12/98 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981206181159.007a7c80@mail.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" JAN CHAPPELL Jan will be appearing in the play THE COLOUR OF JUSTICE from 12 to 31 January 1999 at the Tricycle Theatre, 269 Kilburn High Road, London NW6 7JR. Box Office Tel: 0171 328 1000. The play is a dramatised reconstruction of the major events of the Stephen Lawrence enquiry. Anyone interested in joining the Horizon outing (date not yet finalised) to see this should email diane@horizon.org.uk The Horizon Club website: J.M. Rolls jager@clara.net ---------------- Steedophilia: The John Steed Website -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #301 **************************************