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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 301
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7
Re: [B7L] Languages
Re: [B7L] Cally's telepathic powers
[B7L] Messing around in Sussex
[B7L] Gotcha all.
[B7L] Redemption
Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7
[B7L] Horizon Newsflash - 6/12/98
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:10:22 -0000
From: "Fifitrix" <fifitrix@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7
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>> << > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?"
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>> << "Having extramarital sex with">>
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>> Is there proof of this?
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>Do you expect me to have taken pictures?
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Yes.
Fifitrix
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:29:53 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Languages
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In a message dated 98-11-29 15:11:35 EST, Judith wrote:
<< Might underground religious movements in Federation times have kept old
languages? Hebrew for example?
A 'dead' language actually has some uses. They allow communication in a form
that isn't easy to follow. Yes, computers can translate (though with
variable
accuracy at the present time), but your trooper on the ground isn't going to
understand.
A language is a focus of identity for many people. I can imagine the
Federation
trying to stamp out small localised languages simply because they encourage
independence. They promote different ways of thought. Some ideas can
actually
be better expressed in one language than in another. >>
I find this very plausible. I could see underground ethnic and religious
movements on the outer worlds trying to preserve their languages both as a way
to keep their identity and as a code their enemies don't understand. For this
purpose, a language has a big advantage over a mathematical or alphabetical
code because it is a complex system not based on logic. Thus, it is much
harder to crack. computers can translate, but they have to have a database
of the original language to work from and even then errors are common. Also,
what if the words in the language are themselves code for other things (like
the Navajo code-talkers in WW II), in effect a code within a code. Even if
the Federation managed to translate the language with no errors, they would
still have to crack the inner code.
BTW, I have heard that English is one of the hardest languages in the world
for non-native speakers to learn because it incorporates elements of so many
other languages, has a huge vocabulary, and an extremely inconsistent
grammatical structure. My experience with immigrants who arrived in the U.S.
speaking no English tends to support this. I'd be happy to discuss this on
the spin list.
Tiger M
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:10:05 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Cally's telepathic powers
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In a message dated 98-12-04 08:41:17 EST, D. Rose wrote:
<< The telepathy bit with non-Aurons is one reason I think the Auronar are an
early break-away colony from Earth, rather than truly alien. the fact that
humans such as Vila seem to occasionally "transmit" telepathically seems to
indicate that whatever causes telepathy is present in humankind. Presumably a
genetic link. The Auron could simply be a group of colonists who were
selected
for their telepathic potential, and managed to realize it in isolation. The
cloning process developed on Auron seems to have triggered the full potential
of the genes. >>
I agree. It also explains why Tarrant and Avon were susceptible to the plague
that Servalan unleashed and why they had the same symptoms the Auronar had.
Even in species as closely related as humans and chimps there are often
differences in disease susceptibility and the effects a particular disease
will have. I tend to think of the Auronar as a subspecies of human, rather
like dogs and wolves.
Tiger M
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:40:52 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>, Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Messing around in Sussex
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OK here's my report of our day at the place with the long name beginning
with H.
For those not sure what I am talking about, the BBC was planning to show
a Blake's 7 episode as part of its Over the Moon series on its new
digital channel BBC Choice in mid-January and it wanted to interview
some fans about it to go with the show. The filming was done on Monday
and I was there.
Fifitrix drove Jenni and I down to this place in Sussex, which used to
be the Royal Observatory before it was moved to Greenwich. Despite one
wrong turn (due to naff navigating by me - back seat drivers eh), we
soon knew we were on the right road when we spotted the large white
domed shaped telescope. "Follow that tit," said Jenni, and we did to
find it was backed by a number of smaller green tits, including the one
astronomer Patrick Moore used to map the moon many years ago. Patrick
Moore was there as he was fronting the programme. Fifitrix got him to
sign a poster of Neptune, though we thought the five moons or Uranus
would have been more apt.
The first thing we found out was that the programme wasn't on the early
Jan schedule, so we were told late January or early Feb. As we were the
first there we got to do our interviews first. Fifitrix was first up on
the walkway around one of the green tits, with Jenni and I giggling
behind the combined cameraman and interviewer Ralph Lee. Because of a
weather change, she was the only one to be filmed in sunshine. I was
next, and he asked me about fan fiction and portrayal of relationships
in such. "How far do they go?" he asked. "As far as possible," I
replied, and refused to be drawn further.
Jenni had problems with her bit cos the silver Avon top kept rustling
the hidden microphone, but it was finished in the end and we all went
back to the canteen for some lunch. Other fans arrived and were taken
out for their interviews, including Judith Proctor from these lists.
Three Federation trooper outfits arrived and I ended up wearing one as
we were filmed patrolling the tits and running across the site to arrest
Jenni. Great fun. The rest of the fans were told to keep quiet while
they were filming, but we heard you all laugh when we crashed into each
other. You trying running around a wet field with restricted vision in
boots at least one size too big. Jenni no doubt will post the comment
about my swinging arm.
Ralph told us the episode they are going to show is The Web, which met
with groans from us all and we suggested he pick something else,
preferably with Travis and Servalan in as it will give a better feel of
the nature of the show, so fingers crossed.
Finally bad news. I rang my cable provider today and was told no digital
until spring, so I'll miss the show. If anyone is planning on taping it
please let me know so I can borrow it. We will try to get a copy to show
at Redemption as well.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:59:19 -0000
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Gotcha all.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:40:39 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Redemption
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I've just been speaking to Gareth Thomas. He recieved confirmation earlier
today that he'll be appearing in 'The Hosts of Rebecca' which is on at the same
time as Redemption and he will thus be unable to make it to the convention. (He
says he'll try and send a video tape to say Hello)
We're looking into alternative guests, but it's too soon for us to name any
names yet.
Judith
PS. No, we can't ask Paul, he's in Guards Guards and it would be physically
impossible given the distance he already has to travel that weekend.
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:08:36 EST
From: ShilLance@aol.com
To: master@sol.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7
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In a message dated 12/3/98 7:25:41 PM EST, master@sol.co.uk writes:
<< > << > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?"
>
> << "Having extramarital sex with">>
>
> Is there proof of this?
Do you expect me to have taken pictures? >>
If you state a fact, you should be able to verify it. From where do you get
your information?
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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:11:59 +0000
From: JMR <jager@clara.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Horizon Newsflash - 6/12/98
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JAN CHAPPELL
Jan will be appearing in the play THE COLOUR OF JUSTICE from 12 to 31
January 1999 at the Tricycle Theatre, 269 Kilburn High Road, London NW6
7JR. Box Office Tel: 0171 328 1000. The play is a dramatised
reconstruction of the major events of the Stephen Lawrence enquiry.
Anyone interested in joining the Horizon outing (date not yet finalised)
to see this should email diane@horizon.org.uk
The Horizon Club website:
<http://www.horizon.org.uk>
J.M. Rolls
jager@clara.net
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Steedophilia: The John Steed Website
<http://home.clara.net/jager/>
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