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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 7
Today's Topics:
Re: re:[B7l] re Blakes Motives
Re: Re:[B7L] Harvest of Kairos
Re: Re:[B7L] Hostage silliness
Newcomer alert
Newcomer alert
Re: Re[B7L] email junkie
Re: Re[B7L] Quote request
[B7L] Re: Blake's 7 Web Ring.
[B7L] Re: Dorian Crew
Re: [B7L] Slash debate
[B7L] Re: Blake's 7 Web Ring. (fwd)
re[B7L]: Jackie and Purdie
re[B7L] Og/Gan
re:[B7L] re Blakes Motives
Re: [B7L] jackie and purdie
re[B7L]: re Quote Request
[B7L] Search Engines
Re: [B7L] Search Engines
[B7L] Sherlock Holmes
[B7L] videos
Re: re:[B7l] re Blakes Motives
Re: [B7L] Slash debate
Re: [B7l] re Blakes Motives
[B7L] That Volcano Look (was Re: Harvest of Kairos)
Re: [B7L] Search Engines
Re: [B7L] Slash debate
Re: [B7L] jackie and purdie
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 01:06:58 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: re:[B7l] re Blakes Motives
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Slowly catching up on the Christmas backlog...
Judith wrote:
> However, I tend to regard debate as a form of
> entertainment and will thus take any side of an argument if given
sufficient
> incentive. (The Who's 7 before that, I spent a similar enjoyable hour
> trying to prove that the crew were 100% heterosexual).
I think of debates like this, too. Keeps the wits sharp, too. But other
people just say I like arging. There may be a grain of truth in what they
say, but that's not going to stop me disagreeing with them :-)
Back to Judith, the script, and B7:
> > BLAKE: Tarrant doesn't understand!
> > AVON: Neither do I, Blake!
> > BLAKE: I set all this up!
>
> Which is the last thing he would say if it really was a set-up to capture
> Avon.
Unfortunately, of course, Blake doesn't realise that when Avon hears the
words "set" and "up" in close proximity, he gets a very twitchy trigger
finger. In the cold light of day, Avon might well have realised what Blake
_really_ meant, but as Judith has said (and I agree), Avon was not a
stress-free puppy.
>
> > AVON: Yes!
> > BLAKE: [starts forward again] Avon, I was waiting for YOU.
>
> This is where we see Blake, the real Blake, as opposed to the cynical man
> that he'd become. He wanted his friend. He wanted to believe that he
could
> have the past again. If he had Avon with him, he had hope again.
Unfortunately, Avon has just heard Blake say that not only did he set up a
trap, but it was aimed specifically at Avon. Egotistical, maybe, but that's
Avon for you (with some justification, mind you). And now Blake's sodding
GLOATING. Guess what happens to people who gloat at Avon...
> > [Avon brings the gun around and fires. Blake is visibly
> > hit. Avon fires again. Blake continues his approach, and
> > Avon fires a third time. Blake stops, but is still standing.
> > Avon swings the gun up to point at Blake's face. As his
knees
> > begin to buckle, Blake grabs Avon's arms.]
A few seconds later, after Blake doesn't react quite the way Avon was
expecting a scumbag traitor to, Avon rewinds his mental video and
re-watches that scene again. And he realises what Blake really meant. But
it's a little late now. And then he grins madly. So he's either gone
completely fruit-loop, or he's decided to play his final card and make sure
they don't take him alive. Which is pretty close to bonkers, I suppose.
That man has got to learn to relax more.
Tom Forsyth.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:29:36 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Re:[B7L] Harvest of Kairos
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Julie Horner wrote:
> I have recently watched 'Harvest of Kairos' for the first time. Given
> some of the things I have read about this episode I was prepared to
> be a bit underwhelmed. However, silly spider creature apart I thought
> it was not at all bad.
So the use of lunar module to carry 5 people off a planet with at least
0.9G (as opposed to the 2 it was designed to carry, off an airless planet
with 0.2G, and then only to reach a low orbit) didn't strike you as having
a high
hide-behind-the-couch-not-because-its-scary-but-from-sheer-embarrassment
quotient then? Or the utter rubbish about the semi-sentient rock? And
exactly why didn't the people on the Liberator just look at the Lunar
Lander on the screen and say "Oh - it's a Lunar Lander, circa 1969. Sod the
historical interest, blat it!"
It is almost as silly an episode as "Hostage", which I recently re-watched.
Handy hint - if you're going to get confused as to exactly which henchman
is where, which ones are dead, etc (always happens, especially with B7's
shooting and editing schedule), try and make sure the costume department
makes all the costumes the same, rather than colour-coding them nicely, so
we can all chuckle at Mr. Yellow getting killed twice (once by simply
falling down a big cliff that he just, somehow, completely failed to see,
and walked off the edge of), then reappearing again before suddenly
transforming into Mr. Red, and Mr. Orange first duplicating himself, then
both copies vanishing into thin air without anybody killing him at all.
It's also just not the done thing to have our heroic protagonists Blake and
Avon cowering beneath blaster fire for the whole of the fight sequence,
while Blake's poor, wizened old uncle beats the hordes of young, burly
psychopaths to a pulp armed only with a tree branch.
Tom Forsyth.
(cool - only 509 unread messages now - that'll teach me to take a week off
email over Christmas)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 02:16:37 +0100 (MET)
From: gwr@easynet.co.uk (Gareth Randall)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Re:[B7L] Hostage silliness
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>we can all chuckle at Mr. Yellow getting killed twice...
What *really* makes me chuckle is the way the henchmen run away from the
tumbling polystyrene rocks, waving their arms in the air in classic comedy
fashion. It's now impossible for me to watch that scene without shouting
"Run away! Run away!" in a Graham-Chapman-playing-King-Arthur voice...
Gareth
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gwr
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:31:59 PST
From: "Matt Cherry" <mattcherry@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Newcomer alert
Message-ID: <19980108023159.18150.qmail@hotmail.com>
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Good evening everyone!
My name's Matt and I'm a 20 year old broadcast journalism major at
Temple University in Philadelphia, PA, USA. Just writing to say hi and
introduce myself. I wa thrilled when i found out there was a mailing
list of people who love discussing this ground breaking, intelligent
British sci-fi show with the greatest set of characters around.
I was first introduced to Blake's 7 by an ex girlfriend about 5 years
ago. I had been a Doctor Who fan for some time and had recently gotten
into Red Dwarf as well. Anyways, I became hooked on the program, going
theough the entire run of episodes rather quickly. However, other things
soon put a hold to my interest in teh crew of Liberator/Scorpio...mainly
growing up, and I only quite recently started renewing my interest in
the show I still have the tapes made for me by my then girlfreind all
those years ago and have started watching them again. Ironically, I have
gotten my CURRENT girlfriend addicted to the program as well!
The magic is still there in the programs. I still get a chill when
Blake tells Avon he always trustsed him from the very beginnig at the
end of Star One. I still think Avon is the greates character in
television sci fi, and I still think Sally Harrison (Lauren from
Aftermath) is gorgeous and looks great in that silver getp(too bad she
had to be killed so quickly:)!
Well,I look forward to discussing this cult classic with all of you in
the near future. It's great to be aboard! Standard by 12 Zen!
Thanks,
Matt Cherry
Mattcherry@hotmail.com
______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:33:00 PST
From: "Matt Cherry" <mattcherry@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Newcomer alert
Message-ID: <19980108023300.28773.qmail@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Good evening everyone!
My name's Matt and I'm a 20 year old broadcast journalism major at
Temple University in Philadelphia, PA, USA. Just writing to say hi and
introduce myself. I wa thrilled when i found out there was a mailing
list of people who love discussing this ground breaking, intelligent
British sci-fi show with the greatest set of characters around.
I was first introduced to Blake's 7 by an ex girlfriend about 5 years
ago. I had been a Doctor Who fan for some time and had recently gotten
into Red Dwarf as well. Anyways, I became hooked on the program, going
theough the entire run of episodes rather quickly. However, other things
soon put a hold to my interest in teh crew of Liberator/Scorpio...mainly
growing up, and I only quite recently started renewing my interest in
the show I still have the tapes made for me by my then girlfreind all
those years ago and have started watching them again. Ironically, I have
gotten my CURRENT girlfriend addicted to the program as well!
The magic is still there in the programs. I still get a chill when
Blake tells Avon he always trustsed him from the very beginnig at the
end of Star One. I still think Avon is the greates character in
television sci fi, and I still think Sally Harrison (Lauren from
Aftermath) is gorgeous and looks great in that silver getp(too bad she
had to be killed so quickly:)!
Well,I look forward to discussing this cult classic with all of you in
the near future. It's great to be aboard! Standard by 12 Zen!
Thanks,
Matt Cherry
Mattcherry@hotmail.com
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:58:15 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Re[B7L] email junkie
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Jackie wrote:
> Voyager871 said:
>> The only reason why I don't go on in the middle of the night is
>> because my parents are real light sleepers. If only l could figure
>> out how to lower my modem's volume!
>
> I had a slight problem when I first went on the internet and the owner of
> my provider came round and turned up the volume of my dialler (it was
> easier for him to detect my problem). So, what can get turned UP can also
> be turned DOWN.
> If no-one has let you know, I`ll try and get back to you on this, as I`d
> like to know as well, so I`ll ask him.
Well yes, there is a well-documented and reliable way of turning the volume
down on modems, and you should be able to control the volume quite easily,
if it _can_ be controlled. But some can't.
In Win95, open the control panel, double click on Modems, select your modem
from the list and click on "properties". There will be a slider for the
volume control. Unfortunately, if you are unlucky, your modem won't have a
volume control, and the slider will be greyed out.
The only other alternative, if you are sure that your modem's volume can be
changed, is to use the proper drivers for that particular modem.
Unfortunately, finding the correct drivers for modems is notoriously
difficult - most just use the standard drivers shipped with Win95.
You can also try to send the modem the standard(ish) AT commands that turn
the volume down, but that's something that is quite tricky to do. I havn't
managed to get it working yet myself, so I can't really help any more on
this front.
Tom Forsyth.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:39:04 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Re[B7L] Quote request
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Jackie said:
> Another quote from B7 that I use (only to people who are not B7 fans tho)
> is to suggest an amputation when they complain of a headache. It seems to
> bring a smile to their face!!
My Dad's been using that on me since I was this >----< big. Obviously Mr.
Boucher (or whoever) came over to Australia and chatted to a certain
paediatric heart surgeon before writing that ep. Maybe we can sue for
breach of copyright!
Tom Forsyth.
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 19:42:44 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Blake's 7 Web Ring.
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Andrew Day & Peter Borg wrote:
> I've just set up a B7 web ring.
What is a web ring? I visited the other B7 ring site mentioned, and it
looked like just another web page. Sure, it has links. Does it do other
tricks?
Pat P
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 01:51:47 EST
From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Dorian Crew
Message-ID: <19980107.224457.10383.0.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>
Dorian and Carnell on the same ship???
///// Slash Alert! /////
Penny
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:25:02 +1100
From: Ross Mallett <hawkeye@bluedog.apana.org.au>
To: blake7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Slash debate
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At 5:24 PM +0000 6/1/98, Iain Coleman wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Russ Massey wrote:
>
>> I think the key phrase in Neil's article was his musing on men being
>> emotionally 'mis-humanised' in slash in a similar way that women are
>> physically and mentally dehumanised in male-written porn. It might be less
>> offensive to the men being distorted, but it still makes me raise an
>>eyebrow in
>> the same way I do when someone writes about a 40lb broadsword.
>>
>
>I remember reading that, and thinking the parallels were if anything
>closer than Neil was making out. After all, in male-written porn the
>female characters are generally acting of their own free will, just in a
>way which is, shall we say, atypical.
I'm starting to get really annoyed with this thread. Fanfic *is* male
written. Men read it and they write it.
The idea that men should not write fanfic is repugnant to me. We've always
been writing it, I remember my classmates writing slash back in the 9th
grade.
Knock off the sexist crap. I can't help what gender I was born into. You
can't tell the difference.
Get used to it.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:40:05 +0100 (MET)
From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" <jeroenkw@gns.getronics.nl>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (mailing list)
Subject: [B7L] Re: Blake's 7 Web Ring. (fwd)
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> Andrew Day & Peter Borg wrote:
>
> > I've just set up a B7 web ring.
>
> What is a web ring? I visited the other B7 ring site mentioned, and it
> looked like just another web page. Sure, it has links. Does it do other
> tricks?
>
> Pat P
>
A web ring is an easy way to find almost all web sites about the same subject(s)
If you have 100 pages linked in a ring you have links to all those sites
on every web site.
You can always search and find this info but this makes it easier for you.
Hope this clears that up! :)
See ya!
Jeroen
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:02:20 -0800
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: re[B7L]: Jackie and Purdie
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Fran Myers wrote:
>
> There was another series of "Avengers" - much later - starring a rather
> elderly Steed, assisted by someone whose name I can't recall, but it was
> played by the luscious Gareth Hunt, and Purdie, played by the equally
> luscious Joanna Lumley.
>
> The series was a total flop.
Sort of. Known for its original pairing of Martin Shaw and Lewis Collins
in one episode. Because of that episode they were later paired again as
"The Professionals", which was not a flop.
>
> Last night I watched an old and dreadful English movie in which Jackie
> played - would you believe - a gypsy wench!!! The most cultivated voice
> ever heard from a grubby, untidy, plump gypsy.
>
> Fran M
Title?
Bye for now
Jackie
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:02:47 -0800
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: re[B7L] Og/Gan
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Judith Proctor wrote:
>
> On Tue 06 Jan, Pat Patera wrote:
>
> > That's easy. Gan wasn't *quite* dead after Pressure Point. Servalan's
> > rescuers took him out. Since he escaped a prison ship the last time, he
> > was now sentenced to be a "lab animal" in Justin's science experiment.
> > Og shows him the ropes (pun intended).
>
> No no, <grin>, I've got a far better explanation. I always knew I liked Og,
> now I know why.
>
> Og *is* Gan!!!
>
> Judith
>
> --eerrmm? which bit of Gan did Justin remove? Gan is 6ft6 (at least) and Og
is not (by almost 12 inches)
If Gan IS Og, just what did Justin see on the viewscreen? M....
sorry! wrong list!
Bye for now
Jackie
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:02:59 -0800
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: re:[B7L] re Blakes Motives
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Tom Forsyth wrote:
(snip)
>
> Unfortunately, of course, Blake doesn't realise that when Avon hears the
> words "set" and "up" in close proximity, he gets a very twitchy trigger
> finger. In the cold light of day, Avon might well have realised what Blake
> _really_ meant, but as Judith has said (and I agree), Avon was not a
> stress-free puppy.
(snip, again)
>
> A few seconds later, after Blake doesn't react quite the way Avon was
> expecting a scumbag traitor to, Avon rewinds his mental video and
> re-watches that scene again. And he realises what Blake really meant. But
> it's a little late now. And then he grins madly. So he's either gone
> completely fruit-loop, or he's decided to play his final card and make sure
> they don't take him alive. Which is pretty close to bonkers, I suppose.
>
> That man has got to learn to relax more.
>
> Tom Forsyth.
Told you, Avon should have a pet, it reduces stress levels, and you live
longer.
Bye for now
Jackie
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:15:22 -0000
From: "Heather Smith" <Heather.Smith@btinternet.com>
To: "Blake's 7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] jackie and purdie
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Fran wrote:
> There was another series of "Avengers" - much later - starring a rather
> elderly Steed, assisted by someone whose name I can't recall, but it was
> played by the luscious Gareth Hunt, and Purdie, played by the equally
> luscious Joanna Lumley.
>
> The series was a total flop.
The series went out under the name 'The New Avengers', and Gareth Hunt's
character was called Mike Gambit. It wasn't as successful as the original,
but it still has a largish cult following.
Heather 'can't think of a clever quote to go here' Smith
'There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish'
-The fourth Doctor
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:37:38 -0800
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: re[B7L]: re Quote Request
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Tom Forsyth wrote:
>
> Jackie said:
> > Another quote from B7 that I use (only to people who are not B7 fans tho)
> > is to suggest an amputation when they complain of a headache. It seems to
> > bring a smile to their face!!
>
> My Dad's been using that on me since I was this >----< big. Obviously Mr.
> Boucher (or whoever) came over to Australia and chatted to a certain
> paediatric heart surgeon before writing that ep. Maybe we can sue for
> breach of copyright!
>
> Tom Forsyth.
In another of your posts (to SC roll call) you mention being 6 when you
first watched Blakes7 - so maybe your dad got the quote from B7 in the
first place?
Bye for now
Jackie
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:09:05 +0100 (MET)
From: Brian Franks <>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Search Engines
Message-Id: <199801081709.SAA23699@samantha.lysator.liu.se>
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I saw your listing on the internet.
Get your web site(s) submitted to over 250 of the worlds best
search engines for only $39.95! (Yahoo, Lycos, AOL, Excite,
Hotbot, Linkstar, Webcrawler, and hundreds others).
A professional will view your site and put together a list
of the best key words and submit your site: mailing you
the computer print out of ALL the search engines your
site(s) were submitted to. (you should have in 5-10 days)
To put your web site in the fast lane and receive more
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the below address. To start your submission today, fax
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and be SURE to include BOTH the web site address
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This is a one time fee.
Mail Checks to NetWorld PO Box 326 Oceanside, CA. 92049
Sincerely,
Brian Franks
NetWorld
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(800) 484-2621 X5568
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 11:34:23 -0600
From: "Reuben Herfindahl" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Search Engines
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Has anyone else recieved this kind of garbage? Or if Brian Franks
subscribes to this list, respectfully f**ck off. I subscribe to this list
to discuss Blake's 7, not to be pestered to pay $40 for something I can do
on my own, and for free.
Thousand Pardons if I offended anyone other than Brian Franks
Reuben
reuben@reuben.net
----------
>From: Brian Franks <>
>To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>Subject: [B7L] Search Engines
>Date: Thu, Jan 8, 1998, 11:09 AM
>
>I saw your listing on the internet.
>Get your web site(s) submitted to over 250 of the worlds best
>search engines for only $39.95! (Yahoo, Lycos, AOL, Excite,
>Hotbot, Linkstar, Webcrawler, and hundreds others).
>
>A professional will view your site and put together a list
>of the best key words and submit your site: mailing you
>the computer print out of ALL the search engines your
>site(s) were submitted to. (you should have in 5-10 days)
>
>To put your web site in the fast lane and receive more
>traffic, mail your check for only $39.95 to NetWorld at
>the below address. To start your submission today, fax
>a copy of the check you are mailing to (760) 639-3551
>and be SURE to include BOTH the web site address
>and email address for each site you are having submitted.
>This is a one time fee.
>
>Mail Checks to NetWorld PO Box 326 Oceanside, CA. 92049
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Brian Franks
>NetWorld
>http://www.max2001isp.com/networld/submit.htm
>(800) 484-2621 X5568
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 14:54:38 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Sherlock Holmes
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.09-0108135438-0b0Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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I don't suppose anyone out there has been taping Sherlock Holmes off Granada
Plus have you?
To my absolute frustration, I've just realised that yesterday's episode 'The
Naval Treaty' was the one with Gareth Thomas in. I don't have satellite
anyway, but if I'd realised it was on, I'd have strong-armed somebody into
recording it for me.
Judith
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http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:25:09 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] videos
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.09-0108092509-ab5Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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According to Cult TV magazine, Fabulous Films are re-releasing the B7 videos
throughout 1998 starting on March 2nd. They will be priced at 10.99 pounds
each and have the usual two episodes per tape.
If you have difficulty getting them in your local shop, you'd probably be
able to get them via Videodrome - tel 01733 232800. They charge p+p, but
the rate doesn't seem excessive and they will mail outside the UK. Just
remember that the tapes will be PAL, not NTSC.
Judith
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http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:59:08 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: re:[B7l] re Blakes Motives
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.09-0108095908-b07Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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On Wed 07 Jan, Tom Forsyth wrote:
> A few seconds later, after Blake doesn't react quite the way Avon was
> expecting a scumbag traitor to, Avon rewinds his mental video and
> re-watches that scene again. And he realises what Blake really meant. But
> it's a little late now. And then he grins madly. So he's either gone
> completely fruit-loop, or he's decided to play his final card and make sure
> they don't take him alive. Which is pretty close to bonkers, I suppose.
>
> That man has got to learn to relax more.
Interesting to read the interview with Paul Darrow and Jackie Pearce in this
month's issue of Cult V magazine.
Paul: "It's the ultimate betrayal because if you've got a guy who doesn't
trust anybody and maybe trusted Blake a little, to feel that he'd let him
down... Wow!"
"He knows he's going to get blown away - and the gun's empty by the way - so
what do you do? It's Billy the Kid, isn't it? You draw the empty gun so
that Pat Garrett will blow you away. If you're in that kind of situation
you either cry or you laugh."
I recall Paul saying that before. Mary Ridge may have added on the
gunshots, but Paul played as though Avon was out of ammo. In that
situation, you raise your gun and laugh at fate.
Judith
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http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:51:20 +0000
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Slash debate
Message-ID: <pcRa2AAYIRt0EwUu@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <v03110700b0da2db67d46@[202.12.90.70]>, Ross Mallett
<hawkeye@bluedog.apana.org.au> writes
>At 5:24 PM +0000 6/1/98, Iain Coleman wrote:
>>On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Russ Massey wrote:
>>
>>> I think the key phrase in Neil's article was his musing on men being
>>> emotionally 'mis-humanised' in slash in a similar way that women are
>>> physically and mentally dehumanised in male-written porn. It might be less
>>> offensive to the men being distorted, but it still makes me raise an
>>>eyebrow in
>>> the same way I do when someone writes about a 40lb broadsword.
>>>
>>
>>I remember reading that, and thinking the parallels were if anything
>>closer than Neil was making out. After all, in male-written porn the
>>female characters are generally acting of their own free will, just in a
>>way which is, shall we say, atypical.
>
>
>I'm starting to get really annoyed with this thread. Fanfic *is* male
>written. Men read it and they write it.
>
>The idea that men should not write fanfic is repugnant to me. We've always
>been writing it, I remember my classmates writing slash back in the 9th
>grade.
While there's been an underlying assumption that slash is written by
women (which the majority is, so far as I can tell), I don't think
anybody has yet suggested that men shouldn't write it. (And I should
hope not - I've enjoyed most of the male written stuff I've seen, even
that which does not appeal to me sexually).
>
>Knock off the sexist crap. I can't help what gender I was born into. You
>can't tell the difference.
>
Actually, sometimes you can.
!Generalisation alert!
Women write emotions, men don't.
Not always true of course, probably not even mostly although I don't
have a large enough sample size where I *know* the gender of the author,
but I have read a few stories where I was not surprised to see a male
name under the story title.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:35:21 +0000
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7l] re Blakes Motives
Message-ID: <dVVH0NAJ$It0EwiW@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <E0xq5uH-0000Iu-00@snow.btinternet.com>, Tom Forsyth
<Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com> writes
<snip>
>> > [Avon brings the gun around and fires. Blake is visibly
>> > hit. Avon fires again. Blake continues his approach, and
>> > Avon fires a third time. Blake stops, but is still standing.
>> > Avon swings the gun up to point at Blake's face. As his
>knees
>> > begin to buckle, Blake grabs Avon's arms.]
>
>A few seconds later, after Blake doesn't react quite the way Avon was
>expecting a scumbag traitor to, Avon rewinds his mental video and
>re-watches that scene again. And he realises what Blake really meant. But
>it's a little late now. And then he grins madly. So he's either gone
>completely fruit-loop, or he's decided to play his final card and make sure
>they don't take him alive. Which is pretty close to bonkers, I suppose.
Depends on whether you think suicide by Federation troopers is a less
rational alternative than living a little longer in order to be tortured
to death for your information. Yes, I know Servalan would probably keep
him alive for one reason or another (Orac, teleport, sex slave...), but
to the Federation in general he's just a criminal and a talented
terrorist who's managed to make a right bloody nuisance of himself.
>
>That man has got to learn to relax more.
There are lots of us who would be willing to help him :-)
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:50:49 -0500
From: Harriet Monkhouse <H_F_Monkhouse@compuserve.com>
To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] That Volcano Look (was Re: Harvest of Kairos)
Message-ID: <199801081451_MC2-2E7D-6FCE@compuserve.com>
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Grace said:
>After I saw "Volcano" I kind of put my head
>in my hands and said "Hmm, now what is
>that look about? It can't really mean that
>Avon is so concerned about Cally's welfare,
>can it?
That Look hit me between the eyes, too, but I thought it was Avon reacting
to the notion that perhaps he would spend the rest of his life stuck on a
ship with just Vila for company. No Orac, no Cally, all gone.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 18:14:05 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Search Engines
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.09-0108171405-0b0Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1
On Thu 08 Jan, Reuben Herfindahl wrote:
> Has anyone else recieved this kind of garbage? Or if Brian Franks
> subscribes to this list, respectfully f**ck off. I subscribe to this list
> to discuss Blake's 7, not to be pestered to pay $40 for something I can do
Yes, I got it privately as well as via the list and my reaction was pretty
much the same as yours. Spam is a real bind.
Actually, I've been getting a lot less spam recently. Demon must have found
some way of cutting down on it as this was the first one I'd had in several
weeks.
Judith
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26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:58:48 +1100 (EST)
From: Gordon Burgess & Carol Mason <gcb7@magna.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Slash debate
Message-Id: <199801082258.JAA13877@magna.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>At 06:25 PM 1/8/98 +1100, you wrote:
>>At 5:24 PM +0000 6/1/98, Iain Coleman wrote:
>>>On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Russ Massey wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the key phrase in Neil's article was his musing on men being
>>>> emotionally 'mis-humanised' in slash in a similar way that women are
>>>> physically and mentally dehumanised in male-written porn. It might be less
>>>> offensive to the men being distorted, but it still makes me raise an
>>>>eyebrow in
>>>> the same way I do when someone writes about a 40lb broadsword.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I remember reading that, and thinking the parallels were if anything
>>>closer than Neil was making out. After all, in male-written porn the
>>>female characters are generally acting of their own free will, just in a
>>>way which is, shall we say, atypical.
>>
>>
>>I'm starting to get really annoyed with this thread. Fanfic *is* male
>>written. Men read it and they write it.
>>
>>The idea that men should not write fanfic is repugnant to me. We've always
>>been writing it, I remember my classmates writing slash back in the 9th
>>grade.
>>
>>Knock off the sexist crap. I can't help what gender I was born into. You
>>can't tell the difference.
>>
>>Get used to it.
>>
I have not entered into this debate at all. But without over analysing the
issue I would have thought that the quality of the story and the way the
characters are depicted would rest more with the authors talent or flair for
writing , rather than with what gender the author happens to be.
I have read some very good slash ( m/m ) fan fiction and I was totally blown
away to find that it had been written by a male ( a straight male )
Catch you later,
Carol.
Take care, Peace be with you,
Carol "Hondo" Mason
<gcb7@magna.com.au>
"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"
"Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film"
"Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumlate"
"If you can't convince them, confuse them"
"Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk"
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 19:42 GMT0
From: majikthise@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gary Marden)
To: algemy@ozemail.com.au, blake7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: majikthise@cix.compulink.co.uk
Subject: Re: [B7L] jackie and purdie
Message-Id: <memo.32692@cix.compulink.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <34B3BC69.4D2B@ozemail.com.au>
> There was another series of "Avengers" - much later - starring a rather
> elderly Steed, assisted by someone whose name I can't recall, but it was
> played by the luscious Gareth Hunt, and Purdie, played by the equally
> luscious Joanna Lumley.
That would have been "The New Avengers". Gareth Hunt played a character
called "Mike Gambit".
> The series was a total flop.
Oh, I dunno. It ran for a few seasons. The final (I think) season had the
intrepid trio relocated to Canada, for reasons which I can't recall. The
plots were frequently far fetched.
Cheers
Gary
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