From tariqas-digest-approval@europe.std.com Mon Sep 23 21:08:41 1996 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: tariqas-digest-approval@europe.std.com Reply-To: tariqas-digest@world.std.com To: tariqas-digest@world.std.com Subject: tariqas-digest V1 #148 tariqas-digest Friday, 20 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ellen L Price Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:56:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: A new computer virus (forwarded) (fwd) >From Ellen Price - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:50:34 -0700 From: Barbara Bardram Reply-To: Networking for BETA members To: Multiple recipients of list BETA Subject: A new computer virus (forwarded) >Return-path: >X-Sender: ajohnson@u.arizona.edu >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:42:31 -0700 >Reply-To: HR Information Technology >Sender: HR Information Technology >From: "Andrew D. Johnson" >Subject: A new computer virus (forwarded) >To: Multiple recipients of list HRTECH > >This is a forwarded message from Kathleen Killion about a computer virus; >please be alert. Thanks. > >>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:29:41 -0700 >>From: Kathleen Killion >>Subject: FW: FWD: a new computer virus (fwd) >>>Sender: Affirmative Action Officers mailing list >>>From: Lawrence Johnson >>>Subject: FW: FWD: a new computer virus (fwd) >>>X-To: affirmative action >>>To: Multiple recipients of list AFFNET >>> >>>Colleagues, >>> URGENT: FYI!!!.....Lawrence >>> >>>> >>>> >>SUBJECT: [Very Important !!! ] >>>> >> >>>> >>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you >>>> >>receive an email message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT >>>> >>read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages >>>> >>below. >>>> >> >>>> >> Some miscreant is sending email under the title "Good Times" >>>> >>nationwide, if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It >>>> >> has a virus >>>> >>that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. >>>> >>Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. >>>> >> >>>> >> The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of >>>> >>major importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new >>>> >>computer virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that >>>> >>is unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known >>>> >>viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in >>>> >> comparison to the >>>> >>prospects of this newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this >>>> >>virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to >>>> be >>exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread through >>>> the >>existing email systems of the Internet. >>>> >> >>>> >> Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If >>>> >>the computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be >>>> >>destroyed. If the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will >>>> >> be placed in >>>> >>an nth-complexity infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the >>>> >>processor if left running that way too long. >>>> >> >>>> >>Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is >>>> >>happening until it is far too late. Luckily, there is one sure means >>>> >>of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always >>>> >>travels to new computers the same way in a text email message with the >>>> >>subject >>>> >> >>>> >>line reading "Good Times". Avoiding infection is easy once the file has >>>> >>been received simply by NOT READING IT! The act of loading the file into >>>> >>the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program >>>> to >>initialize and execute. >>>> >> >>>> >> The program is highly intelligent- it will send copies of itself >>>> >>to everyone whose email address is contained in a receive-mail file or >>>> >>a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to trash >>>> >>the computer it is running on. >>>> >> >>>> >> The bottom line is: - if you receive a file with the subject line >>>> >>"Good Times", delete it immediately! Do not read it" Rest assured that >>>> >>whoever' name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. >>>> Warn >>your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the >>>> >>Internet! It could save them a lot of time and money. >>>> >> >>>> >>Could you pass this along to your global mailing list as well? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <2 Subject: New and Dangerous Virus For your information ... >>>> >> >>>> >> DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY FILE NAMED PKZIP300 REGARDLESS OF THE EXTENSION >>>> >> >>>> >>We work closely with the military and received this message from a >>>> >>very reliable source in DC this morning. >>>> >> >>>> >>A NEW Trojan Horse Virus has emerged on the internet with the name >>>> >>PKZIP300.ZIP, so named as to give the impression that this file is >>>> >>a new version of the PKZIP software used to "ZIP" (compress) files. >>>> >> >>>> >>DO NOT DOWNLOAD this file under any circumstances!!! If you install >>or >>>> expand this file, the virus WILL wipe your hard disk clean and >>affect >>>> modems at 14.4 and higher. This is an extremely destructive virus and >>>> >> >>>> >>there is NOT yet a way of cleaning up this one. >>>> >> >>>> >>REPEAT: DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY FILE NAMED PKZIP300 REGARDLESS >>>> >>OF THE EXTENSION. >>>> >> >>>> ------- FORWARD, End of original message ------- >>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>Lawrence C. Johnson phone: 217-786-6222 >>>Associate Chancellor for Affirmative Action fax: 217-786-6511 >>>University of Illinois at Springfield e-mail lajohnso@uis.edu >>>Springfield, IL 62794-9243 >>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>> >> >>Kathy Killion >>Affirmative Action Office >>killionk@u.arizona.edu >>(520)621-9437 >>(520)621-2095 (fax) >> >> >Andrew D. Johnson > >adj@arizona.edu > Barbara Bardram Administrative Assistant Student Financial Aid Administration Room 203 (520) 621-5200 bardram@lan.admin.arizona.edu ------------------------------ From: Fred Rice Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:09:52 +1000 (EST) Subject: You cannot be a dervish [Yunus Emre] Dervishood tells me, you cannot become a dervish. So what can I tell you? You cannot become a dervish. A dervish needs a wounded heart and eyes full of tears. He needs to be as easy going as a sheep. You can't be a dervish. He must be without hands when someone hits him. He must be tongueless when cursed. A dervish needs to be without any desire. You can't be a dervish. You make a lot of sounds with your tongue, meaningful things. You get angry about this and that. You can't be a dervish. If it were all right to be angry on this path, Muhammed himself would have gotten angry. Because of your anger, you can't be a dervish. Unless you find a real path, unless you find a guide, unless Truth grants you your portion, you can't be a dervish. Therefore, dervish Yunus, come, dive into the ocean now and then. Unless you dive into the ocean, you cannot be a dervish. [From "The Drop That Became The Sea: Lyric Poems of Yunus Emre," translated by Kabir Helminski and Refik Algan (Threshold Books), p. 29.] ------------------------------ From: Ellen L Price Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:54:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: to Jinavasma re: sex in full moon There is also a belief that it is not good to travel on the Wednesday before the new moon. Ellen ------------------------------ From: "Michael J. Moore" Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:08:30 -0700 Subject: Re: 'Attar on Stage! Perhaps when you go, you will notice if it is being video taped. If so, would you please let us know how to obtain a tape? Or any other information such as other cities where it will be performed would be appreciated. I have a great desire to see it; guess I'll have to work on that. ;-) - -- Michael J. Moore ------------------------------ From: MFKimball@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 20:10:49 -0400 Subject: Re: to Jinavasma re: sex in full moon This is a joke, right? Salams, MFK ------------------------------ From: mmm@indo.net.id (M. M. Medeiros) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:44:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Saytan having sex with one's wife [Re: to Jinavasma re: sex in full moon Greeting, Noordin, and peace, Please can you tell me what the pre-sexual activity verse is? Need this info badly. All best, Mansur = ------------------------------ From: Asim Jalis Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 21:56:14 CDT Subject: A new computer virus (forwarded) (fwd) Dear Ellen, The message about the computer virus is actually the hoax. I have seen it pop up elsewhere. Also I have seen it discredited in several newsgroups. Basically it is impossible to get a virus through e-mail since the contents of an e-mail message are never executed, just read. So in some ways the message about the virus is ITSELF the virus in that it refuses to die and intermitently infects various mailing-lists. Asim ------------------------------ From: Asim Jalis Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 22:19:42 CDT Subject: Satan Observing the thread on Satan and sex: It's interesting that most people (myself included) can entertain the idea of God as a real entity, but consider Satan to be a metaphor. Perhaps this is a result of ideas from psychology which explain evil in terms of the subconsciousness and thus make Satan obsolete. Also belief in Satan is not a part of most religious creeds so his abrupt removal from the stage of human consciousness never became quite as controversial as assertions about God not existing. Asim ------------------------------ From: Craig Johannsen Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:09:18 -0700 Subject: Re: A new computer virus (forwarded) (fwd) Asim Jalis wrote: > > Dear Ellen, > > The message about the computer virus is actually the hoax. I have seen it pop > up elsewhere. Also I have seen it discredited in several newsgroups. Basically > it is impossible to get a virus through e-mail since the contents of an e-mail > message are never executed, just read. So in some ways the message about the > virus is ITSELF the virus in that it refuses to die and intermitently infects > various mailing-lists. > > Asim Please note that there is a virus which can be acquired from a Microsoft Word document attached to an email message. You don't get the virus until you view the document using Microsoft Word. It only affects Word -- changes the menus or something like that. Microsoft has a patch that fixes the problem (see www.microsoft.com or call Microsoft support). Also, if you run a program (.exe or .com) file sent to you as an attachment you can acquire a virus. ------------------------------ From: millerry@teleport.com (Ryan) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: Desire > >Okay, this is a question for people here: how do you keep your mind in >control when you are on the street or on a bus? Dhikr? Anything else? > > >Asim This statement makes me wonder if controling sexual thoughts is really what one should do? I'm nineteen and have enough trouble just controling my sexual actions. Controling sexual thoughts! I'm sorry I just can't comprehend such a thing. Maybe a spiritual authority could tell us which one we should control: sexual thoughts or actions. thanks, Ryan ------------------------------ From: millerry@teleport.com (Ryan) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Problem of Suffering >Salaams to all! > >I wonder if anyone would be willing to share their insights on the >problem of suffering in the world from any religious or philosophical >standpoint/tradition, including Islam/sufism, Judaism, Christianity, >Hinduism, Budhism etc. Here are some of the questions that may guide >your response: is suffering a) a consequence of sins; >b) a test from God to strengthen faith (e.g. the story of Job); c) >the working out of nature which is morally blind and does not >distinguish between good and bad when dishing out calamities (this >is, for instance, the view advanced in rabbi Kushner's book "When bad >Things happen to good people"); d) the product of capitalism which >leads to the problem of alienation (Karl Marx)--and other secular >viewpoints informed by Freudianism, existentialism, utilitarianism >etc What about ethnic suffering--North & South American Indians, >Aborigines in Australia, Blacks in the U.S. etc--what is the meaning >of their suffering? Critics of religion argue that if God is >Good/merciful/in control etc why is evil/ atrocities allowed to take >place? Liberation theologians have wrestled with these thorny >questions (the conservativism of the Catholic church/establishment >notwithstanding). Why are some children born deformed, or people >(some rather than others) struck down by cancer, liver disease, >depression etc? Why is the restoration of justice promised in the >afterlife and not in this life? These are some of the questions as >well as objections that are usually raised when the problem of >suffering is discussed. > >Thanks for your input > >A.C. The following is from the introduction to Danial Matt's translation of the "Zohar." "Once it is told, Rabbi El'azar encountered a gentile who challegened the chosenness of Israel: 'You say that your are closer to the Supreme King than all other nations. One who is close to the King is always happy, with no pain, fear or oppression. But you are always in pain and grief, more oppressed than all other people in the world. As for us, no pain, oppression, or grief even comes near. We are close to the Supreme King; you are far from Him!' Rabbi El'azar stared at this man and he truned into a heap of bones. Then the rabbi said: 'The words spoken by that wicked man I once asked the prophet Elijah. He told me that these words were once arranged before the Blessed Holy One in the Academy in Heaven, and this was the response... Indeed we are closer to the Supreme King than all other nations. Indeed it is so! For the Blessed Holy One has made Israel the heart of the whole world. Thus Israel lives among the other nations as the heart among the limbs of the body. Just as the limbs cannot exist even for a moment without the heart, so all the nations cannot exist without Israel... The heart is tender and weak; yet it is the life of all the limbs. Only the heart perceives pain and trouble and grief, for it contains life and intelligence. The other limbs are not close to the King. They have no life; they perceive nothing.'" and there is more: "Christian teaching claimed that Israel's exile was a sign of divine punishment for their rejection of Christ. The Zohar turns this argument upside down and cites biblical verses to indicate that Israel's lowly condition is the result of God's loving, parental discipline, whereas Christianity's rise to power is evidence that God has forsaken them and offers them no correction" I am neither a Jew, a Christian, or Suffi. But it seems to me that suffering is like a forge fire. It hardens our soul for the Glories of Heaven. Without suffering and guilt we would lead a stagnant, static existance. Albert Camus wrote an intersting essay called the "Myth of Sisyphus." Sisyphus was a Greek who defied the Gods, so they sentenced him to push a rock up a hill, when it gets to the top it rolls back and he must push it up again, forever. To Camus this was a metaphor for life. He believed that when Sisyphus strolled down the hill to push it back up again, he smiled. I havn't read the essay but it jives with my own limited experience of the world. I hope this answers some of your questions, if anybody knows better then I concerning the subject and my sources. :) Ryan ------------------------------ From: "M.I.S. DEPT" Date: Fri, 20 SEP 96 02:56:52 Subject: RE: Saytan having sex with one's wife [Re: to Jinavasma re: sex in full moon Do you know that shaytan outnumber human beings in the ratio of 99:1? So it is not surprising if they are in every little corner that one can think of--even in a small bedroom when u think u are alone with your wife?. regards, Noordin ------------------------------ From: "M.I.S. DEPT" Date: Fri, 20 SEP 96 03:02:27 Subject: Re: Saytan having sex with one's wife [Re: to Jinavasma re: sex in full moon the pre-sex verse is : Allahumma jannibnish shatana wa jannibis shaitana ma razak tana. Salam Noordin ------------------------------ From: "Steve Phillips" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:57:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Desire > sexual actions. Controling sexual thoughts! I'm sorry I just can't > comprehend such a thing. Maybe a spiritual authority could tell us which > one we should control: sexual thoughts or actions. > > > thanks, Ryan Ryan, maybe the spiritual authority is in your own heart.... steve ------------------------------ From: "Steve Phillips" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:04:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Satan > Observing the thread on Satan and sex: It's interesting that most people > (myself included) can entertain the idea of God as a real entity, but > consider Satan to be a metaphor. Perhaps this is a result of ideas from > psychology which explain evil in terms of the subconsciousness and thus > make Satan obsolete. Also belief in Satan is not a part of most religious > creeds so his abrupt removal from the stage of human consciousness never > became quite as controversial as assertions about God not existing. > > Asim > It may be that folks aren't having such a problem accepting that satan exists, just that he enjoys sexual pleasures. Especially the idea that he might enjoy such activities with a human. Several have expressed the thought that this entire thread is so far removed from conventional thinking that it seems like it could have been intended as a strange kind of joke. I believe that satan is an inner being or potentiality. In some ways the original statement makes sense to me, as a warning about faithfulness, though the details of that warning seem wrapped in antique obscurities. Nonetheless, I can still listen to the warning in quiet moments. steve ------------------------------ From: "Steve Phillips" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:56:20 -0400 Subject: Re: A new computer virus (forwarded) (fwd) - ---------- > Please note that there is a virus which can be acquired from > a Microsoft Word document attached to an email message. > You don't get the virus until you view the document using > Microsoft Word. It only affects Word -- changes the menus or > something like that. Microsoft has a patch that fixes the > problem (see www.microsoft.com or call Microsoft support). > > Also, if you run a program (.exe or .com) file sent to you as an > attachment you can acquire a virus. I think the virus was slightly more complex, and did involve an executable program that would be executed as part of a macro within the document. If I recall correctly, in addition to the patch from Microsoft, it is also possible in word to turn off the option that enables immediate execution of batch programs inside of macros. If you fix this setting correctly (I'm not a Word user so I don't know how to set it) then you would be prompted about executing the batch program before it occurs. This way, if the document came inside a mail message, you would have time to prevent it from executing on your machine. that's what I vaguely remember about it. steve ------------------------------ From: Imaan Shivani Joshi Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:35:21 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: Women on the sidewalk > I just don't know what to do with Muslim women. I mean, If I > am walking down a sidewalk on a nice sunny day and a Muslim > woman is comming towards me, what should I do? do you normally greet everyone that you meet? If you do...but then again, the etiquette of this is unclear even among muslims:_) take me, for example; sometimes, i do not know that if I give salaam to a muslim man, that he will not take it as offensive; normally I avoid doing this, cos I don't want to give the wrong impression...but when I have to talk to a muslim man, I normally start with a greeting. For you as a non muslim[ I am assuming you are nnot muslim, sorry if I am mistaken] I guess...the same rules would apply:-) Ignore her? > Give her salaams? What? The same in the masjid. Now I know > that a man is not supposed to touch a woman in the masjid > as it breaks his wudhu but what about in areas just outside > the masjid, ie the hall ways, the kitchen, or just outside? Ah, so you are muslim, Insh'Allah...abt breaking wudu', as I understand it, this applies only to the shafi'e madhhab. The rest do nnot rule that accidental touching breaks wudu'... > > With Muslim women, I never know if I am being cold and > snobish or if I am being obscenely forward. Join the club, except that it is the other way around; my advice; unless you know her, maybe you should avoid salaam. Alternatively give salaam and leave it at that; leave her alone; I say this from experience; a br used to be very friendly...used to compare me with his little sister etc...so I thot, he is safe; one day he tried to buy me a meal, and before that he used to try and strike up conversations and tried even to shake my hand...just today...after jumu'at, a br who has been rather persistent[ I am *not* saying he is romantically interested] tried for the 10th time to strike up a conversation. I felt extremely uncomfortable. I no longer pretend to go along; I just feel too uncomfortable; he accosts me at places where I go and where he turns up; he waits for me after class[ he is a student in a class I teach]...so I guess...we can be oversensitive. If you must give salaam, give it and then move on; pls do not linger to chat unless we know you and are not likely to be panciked:-) > > Now I know that I have already made the mistake of lumping > all Muslim women together as if they were all the same, > but there must be some general advice that I could apply. I hope this has helped? I hope so:-) sorry:_) Imaan ------------------------------ From: Imaan Shivani Joshi Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:37:56 +0800 (SST) Subject: Yunus Emre (fwd) as salaamu 'alaikum A poem sent to me by a br, that I would like to share with all of you as he wihsed to share it with some of us:-) Insh'Allah, you will find it as meaningful as I did:-) wasalaam, Imaan =============================================================================== By Yunus Emre, translated by Kabir Helminski and Refik Algan Sorrowful one, why do you go around in tears? If my Lord causes me to weep, surely He will make me laugh some day. So many of the sorrowful landed here, then migrated back. If my Lord causes me to weep, surely He will make me laugh some day. This suffering is my dearest companion. When my sighs and tears rise up, His gifts and kindness are the cause. If my Lord causes you to weep, surely He will make you laugh some day. All the while, turn your faces toward the Truth; all the while, remember His name. He gives grief to those He favors. If my Lord causes you to weep, surely He will make you laugh some day. Don't leave this poor head of yours in love, or bloody tears will flow. He is generous, He even makes repairs. If my Lord causes you to weep, surely He will make you laugh some day. Yunus, so many states before your eyes, so many places to stop. Stop and call your Lord night and day. If my Lord causes you to weep, surely He will make you laugh some day. [From "The Drop That Became The Sea: Lyric Poems of Yunus Emre," translated by Kabir Helminski and Refik Algan, p. 56.] ------------------------------ End of tariqas-digest V1 #148 *****************************